e prime crashes if subject presses response button twice

Jasmina Bakic jasmina.bakic at gmail.com
Tue Nov 8 16:11:28 UTC 2011


Hi Ben,

yeah, it is most sensible explanation. , I just run it once again, to make
sure it really is not a mislabelling problem, so I let all the images I use
and all the feedback options play out several times. After I made sure all
of them are uploading correctly, I just pressed, as before, same response
button twice, and sure enough- it crashed. Is it possible that for some
reason e-prime sees it as an ImageDisplay error?

Best, Jasmina

On 8 November 2011 16:58, ben robinson <baltimore.ben at gmail.com> wrote:

> i'm pretty sure, given your error message (11042: Filename on
> ImageDisplay has not been set), that it has absolutely nothing to do
> with how you are coding responses.  whichever ImageDisplay object is
> meant to onset at the moment your program is crashing has a missing or
> mis-labeled image file specified, and that ImageDisplay object crashes
> e-prime because it can't find an image file that it needs in order to
> perform its job.
>
> ben
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Jasmina Bakic <jasmina.bakic at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Hester,
> >
> > yes, I think you are totally right about this one, thank you! E prime
> has to
> > give the feedback based on the correctness of the response, with three
> > options "true", "false" and "too late". The problem is, I don;t want to
> just
> > get rid of the double/triple button press answers because I am still
> > interested in knowing whether the answer was correct or not. The only in
> > line that I wrote so far was to make sure that the answers will be
> recorded
> > whether they are given during the stimulus presentation or in the blank
> > afterwards, and I don't know how to expand this to include cases where
> > button has been pressed several times, so to still record the answer and
> > give the feedback.
> >
> > Jas
> > On 7 November 2011 14:37, Hester Duffy <hester.duffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It may be to do with the way your program deals with responses; I've
> dealt
> >> with an issue in the past where, if the response wasn't what e-prime was
> >> expecting, it fell into an interminable loop and then crashed. Is
> E-prime
> >> doing anything with your responses other than simply recording them? For
> >> example, is it using them to set event codes, to determine feedback, to
> >> choose the next stimulus, anything of that sort? If so, it's worth
> having a
> >> look at the bit of code that does that, and ensuring that there's a
> >> catch-all "ELSE" function, so that if the feedback is something other
> than
> >> what e-prime was expecting, it still knows what to do with it.
> >>
> >> H
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jasmina Bakic <jasmina.bakic at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Mich and Maartje, thank you for the advices and the wits. I am still
> >>> working on it …
> >>>
> >>> To answer your question, Mich, I can actually make it crash
> >>> intentionally, I just have to press one of the two possible response
> keys on
> >>> the keyboard several times,  and it crashes right away. So,
> unfortunately, I
> >>> don’t think it is the problem with pressing shift or windows button.
> >>>
> >>> My two  “ participants” report that this is, of course, totally
> >>> unintentional, and probably very difficult to control, especially
> after a
> >>> while, when you really get into the task.
> >>>
> >>> The response message that I get is : 11042: Filename on ImageDisplay
> has
> >>> not been set
> >>>
> >>> On ImageDisplay I had set the two possible responses in the Response
> >>> Options session under “allowable”...
> >>>
> >>> Jas
> >>>
> >>> On 7 November 2011 12:14, Michiel Spape <
> Michiel.Spape at nottingham.ac.uk>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> Just to say: this one completely went over my head - you're absolutely
> >>>> right, that'd certainly crash e-prime! I doubt it's the problem here,
> >>>> though, the only one who repeatedly activates "Stickykeys" is my cat,
> who
> >>>> likes to sleep on top of my keyboard (especially when I'm trying to
> use it).
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Mich
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. Michiel M. Sovijärvi-Spapé
> >>>> Research Fellow
> >>>> Perception & Action group
> >>>> University of Nottingham
> >>>> School of Psychology
> >>>> www.cognitology.eu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On
> >>>> Behalf Of mrtj
> >>>> Sent: 06 November 2011 21:12
> >>>> To: E-Prime
> >>>> Subject: Re: e prime crashes if subject presses response button twice
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jas,
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you using a Eprime response box, or are you using the keyboard of
> >>>> your computer?
> >>>> If you are using a keyboard: When participants accidently press the
> >>>> shift button repeatedly (or some other key combinations), this will
> >>>> activate 'StickyKeys' (or other functions) in Windows and will cause
> >>>> Eprime to crash. You can deactivate these automatic key functions
> >>>> through the Control Panel > Accessibility Options > Keyboard.
> >>>> I'm not sure of this is your problem, but if so this may well help.
> >>>>
> >>>> groeten,
> >>>> Maartje
> >>>>
> >>>> On Nov 4, 5:26 pm, Jas <jasmina.ba... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > Hi everybody,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am trying to design an experiment on E-prime, which pretty much
> >>>> > worked except that if it happens that the subject accidentally
> presses
> >>>> > the response button more than once, or presses both response buttons
> >>>> > one right after the other, the E prime crashes and won't continue
> the
> >>>> > experiment. Being an absolute beginner, I don' t even know what
> >>>> > information you may need to be able to help me. Any help from more
> >>>> > experienced users is appreciated.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Best regards, Jas
> >>>>
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