Random lists and orders, but with correspondence block1/block2

Catarina Azevedo catarina.melo.azevedo at gmail.com
Tue Mar 20 09:59:27 UTC 2012


Thank you so much for your help David!

Cheers

On 19 Mar, 20:20, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> Catarina,
>
> First, as I try to remind people, I do not work for PST.  So I am not
> sure that I have either the authority or the obligation to distribute
> the StudyRecall.es example myself.
>
> Second, even if allowed, Google Groups no longer includes a facility
> for posting files for download (sigh).
>
> So if you have registered a user name & password for PST Web Support
> and still cannot login, then you may need to e-mail them about that
> at i... at pstnet.com, or telephone them at a number that you can get
> from their web site.  Limit your conversation to your troubles
> logging in to Web Support, PST does *not* do tech support by e-mail or phone.
>
> Good luck,
> -- David McFarlane
>
> At 3/19/2012 12:22 PM Monday, you wrote:
>
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> >Hi David,
>
> >Thank you for your help. I tried to enter the PST support but it
> >doesn't accept my email and password...(I don't know why). Can you put
> >here the recall study example, please?
>
> >I just need to know how to define that the word "y" will appear in the
> >second block, if the word "x" appears on the first block, although
> >words in the first block are chosen randomly. I really need some help.
>
> >Cheers
>
> >Catarina
>
> >On Mar 15, 8:40 pm, David McFarlane <mcfar... at msu.edu> wrote:
> > >Catarina,
>
> > > Stock reminder:  1) I do not work for PST.  2) PST's trained staff
> > > take any and all questions
> > athttp://support.pstnet.com/e%2Dprime/support/login.asp, and they
> > > strive to respond to all requests in 24-48 hours -- this is pretty
> > > much their substitute for proper documentation, so make full use of
> > > it.  3) In addition, PST takes questions at their Facebook page
> > > (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychology-Software-Tools-Inc/241802160683
> > > ), and offers several instructional videos there and on their YouTube
> > > channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSTNET) (no Twitter feed yet,
> > > though).  4) If you do get an answer from PST staff, please extend
> > > the courtesy of posting their reply back here for the sake of others.
>
> > > That said, here is my take...
>
> > > Quick response, addressing merely the "Study-Recall" aspect of this
> > > design -- take a look at the StudyRecall.es example downloadable from
> > > the PST web site.  That should give you ideas.
>
> > > And just a general overal pointer on Lists & nested Lists in
> > > E-Prime:  As I describe in my online E-Prime course (and in other
> > > threads both here and at the PST Forum), I have found it helpful to
> > > think of them all these Lists as separate decks of playing cards.
>
> > > Good luck.
> > > -----
> > > David McFarlane
> > > E-Prime training
> > > online:  http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx
> > > Twitter:  @EPrimeMaster (twitter.com/EPrimeMaster)
>
> > > At 3/14/2012 06:06 AM Wednesday, you wrote:
>
> > > >Hi all!
>
> > > >I know how to work with E-prime in general but I never did scripts
> > > >with it. I have 3 questions and I hope you can help me on this.
>
> > > >I have a final list of 80 English and 80 Dutch words. I want each
> > > >participant to see 40 English and 40 Dutch words. All the Dutch words
> > > >are translations of the English words and these different languages of
> > > >the words are separated in two different blocks.The most important is
> > > >that the words appearing in the second block of presentation must be
> > > >the translations of the words in the first block (if they see
> > > >"happy"in the first they must see "blij"in the second).
>
> > > >This is the general idea. My questions are:
>
> > > >1- From the 80 Eng and the 80 Dutch words lists I want to take
> > > >randomly 40 words (of each) for each participant. The idea is that
> > > >instead of having 2 or more equivalent lists and counterbalanced them
> > > >for subject, I want each participant to see different combinations of
> > > >words, randomly assigned, in a different order of presentation. For
> > > >that is important to guarantee a) that all words will be seen by the
> > > >same number of participants and b) the words in the second block are
> > > >the translations of the ones of the first block.
>
> > > >2- From that 40 English (and Dutch) words they will be seen, I want to
> > > >specify that they will always see 10 of category A, 10 of category B,
> > > >10 of category C and 10 of category D.
>
> > > >3- If possible I do not want them to see more than 3 words of the same
> > > >category one after the other.
>
> > > >Thank you so much for your help
>
> > > >Catarina

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