On using E-DataAid: WAS: Converting an Edat file into either a .xls or .txt file

Fri Feb 15 19:24:20 UTC 2013

I will definitely look at those resources.

On Friday, February 15, 2013 10:58:27 AM UTC-5, McFarlane, David wrote:
>
> I too will beat the drum for E-Merge & 
> E-DataAid.  For some years now I have said that 
> it is almost worth getting E-Prime for its superb 
> data handling facilities alone!  No other 
> psychology programming platform compares in this 
> regard, no matter what other shortcomings E-Prime may have. 
>
> Sadly, it took me many years to discover this -- 
> like many, I too initially treated E-DataAid as 
> nothing more than a tool to export data to Excel 
> or SPSS.  I did not realize the full value myself 
> until a lab asked me to give them a tutorial on 
> E-Merge & E-DataAid, and when I finally went 
> through the manuals I was surprised! 
>
> So work through *all* of the E-Merge and 
> E-DataAid tutorials in the User's Guide and 
> Reference Guide that come with E-Prime, you will 
> find it *well* worth your trouble.  You might 
> also look through Michiel et al.'s "The 
> E-Primer".  Finally (shameless self-promotion 
> here), I devote an entire lesson of my online 
> video course to just this topic, with a guided 
> exercise to show much of what Michiel described. 
>
> ----- 
> David McFarlane 
> E-Prime training 
> online:  http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx 
> Twitter:  @EPrimeMaster (https://twitter.com/EPrimeMaster) 
>
>
> At 2/15/2013 10:03 AM Friday, Paul Groot wrote: 
> >You're right. E-DataAid features are often overlooked. 
> > 
> >Perhaps I was not clear about Excel: I meant 
> >that Excel has serious problems with many rows 
> >or columns. Although I think newer versions of 
> >Excel do a much better job now, so this might not be a problem for many 
> users. 
> > 
> >paul 
> > 
> >On 13 February 2013 14:27, Cognitology 
> ><<mailto:msp... at cognitology.eu <javascript:>>msp... at cognitology.eu<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > 
> >Hi, 
> > 
> >If you’re not YET doing it, I urge you to have 
> >another look at what is possible with e-DataAid. 
> >The reason is that I know many students 1) know 
> >SPSS fairly well, and a bit of Excel, and try to 
> >avoid E-***. Not saying that counts for you as 
> >well. Indeed, this is a bit of a shot in the 
> >dark, but with such sentences as “I have a large 
> >number of subject edat files (500+) and I like 
> >the column/row format that the Excel export 
> >option that E-DataAid uses so that I can easily 
> >convert the data into a format I like using spss 
> >syntax”, it’s difficult to avoid guessing! You 
> >might want to say something about what you’re 
> >planning to do, but in its absence, let’s have 
> >an example from my own life, and maybe it helps? 
> > 
> >·         What I like is having a good amount of 
> >Repeated Measures ANOVA style formatted columns, 
> >say, RTs of 2x4 conditions, one row per subject. 
> >For SPSS. What I have is 500 .edats. Arggh, right? 
> > 
> >1.       We merge all files to one big .emrg, which we then open in .edat 
> > 
> >2.       We filter out those RTs we are not 
> >interested in, say, the ones in which an error 
> >occurs. Also, I don’t like trials 1:20. 
> > 
> >3.       Now, we go to analyze, drag Subject to 
> >the Row, and any type of between-subject variable (sex, age, etc). 
> > 
> >4.       Then drag ConditionP1vs2 to columns, 
> >drag ConditionQ1vs2vs3vs4 to columns. Drag the 
> >critical RT thing to the Data bit. Press Run. 
> > 
> >5.       So, we should see a nice table of at 
> >least 500x8. Oops, it’s got two decimals.. why? 
> >Make that 4. Select all of it, copy the bunch to excel. 
> > 
> >6.       Inside excel, underneath the two rows 
> >with variables (rows A and B), insert a new row 
> >(say C). Enter the wonderful formula =A&”_”&B and drag it all across row 
> C. 
> > 
> >7.       Select row C, copy, go stand in an 
> >empty bit, paste special: values only, and 
> >transpose. Copy that, go to SPSS, paste in 
> >variables: now, that’s descriptive indeed. 
> > 
> >8.       Copy all the values over to SPSS (but 
> >you’ll have to reassign string values from numeric for some columns). 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >These 8 steps, lengthy as they may seem, take me 
> >about 2 minutes, and I think it’s a great workflow. 
> > 
> >TLDR? Try E-DataAid, it’s ridiculously simple, 
> >really rocks, and SPSS is best avoided as they 
> >make it slower and buggier with every next release. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >PS: Paul, I find Excel not at all slow with 
> >large data-files? Much faster than SPSS, at 
> >least, or at least it has been between excel 
> >2007 and 2010 (2013 beta was running very slow 
> >here); it does not cope very well with large and 
> >lengthy formulas that need repeated 
> >recalculation and take up more than hundreds of MBs, though. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >Best, 
> > 
> >Michiel 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >From: 
> ><mailto:e-p... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>>e-p... at googlegroups.com<javascript:> 
> >[mailto:e-p... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>] On Behalf Of Daniel 
> >Sent: 11. February 2013 23:02 
> >To: <mailto:e-p... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>>e-p... at googlegroups.com<javascript:> 
> >Subject: Re: Converting an Edat file into either a .xls or .txt file 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >Yeah, I will probably just end up splitting it 
> >using a SPSS syntax script (I am not very 
> >familiar with Matlab yet), it will be a little 
> >bit tedious but faster than doing it manually. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >Thanks for the input. 
> > 
> >On Friday, February 8, 2013 6:49:09 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: 
> > 
> >I have a large number of subject edat files 
> >(500+) and I like the column/row format that the 
> >Excel export option that E-DataAid uses so that 
> >I can easily convert the data into a format I 
> >like using spss syntax. Is there a faster way to 
> >convert all of these subject files into the 
> >excel format, some sort of way to iterate over 
> >all files in a folder, instead of having to open 
> >each one and export them separately? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >Thanks. 
>
>

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