[gothic-l] Re: Neil Acherson's Crimea (MYHA)

Svein Nestor NESTOR at SPRAKRAD.NO
Wed Nov 1 11:57:32 UTC 2000


To:             	gothic-l at egroups.com
From:           	dirk at smra.co.uk
Date sent:      	Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:34:24 -0000
Send reply to:  	gothic-l at egroups.com
Subject:        	[gothic-l] Re: Neil Acherson's Crimea (MYHA)

There is a corresponding word in Old Norse: mækir, and Nynorsk 
(New Norse) has mækje as well as mækjer. Old Norse even has 
hræmæki, being the name of a sword. Hræ means "corpse".

Svein Nestor

> I was not aware of this faroese word  maeki for sword. This does seem 
> to change things and makes a borrowing from Gothic into Slavic more 
> likely. Thanks for the information.
> Dirk
> 
> 
> --- In gothic-l at egroups.com, "Svein Nestor" <NESTOR at s...> wrote:
> > To:             	gothic-l at egroups.com
> > From:           	dirk at s...
> > Date sent:      	Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:16:44 -0000
> > Send reply to:  	gothic-l at egroups.com
> > Subject:        	[gothic-l] Re: Neil Acherson's Crimea (MYHA)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dirk is not quite right as there is a Faroese word mæki, which 
> > means "sword".
> > 
> > Svein Nestor 
> > 
> > 
> > > This proposition would be supported by the fact that the Russian 
> word 
> > > for helmet, 'shlem' (I hope my transliteration is vaguely correct) 
> is 
> > > likely of Germanic origin. See German 'Helm'. On the other hand it 
> > > worries my a bit that a word similar to mekeis or myha does not 
> seem 
> > > to appear in other Germanic languages for sword, and given that 
> > > according to Vernadsky the Anti were famous for their swords 
> (Beowulf 
> > > quote) a borrowing into the Gothic language should be considered.
> > > 
> > > Dirk
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In gothic-l at egroups.com, "Francisc Czobor" <czobor at c...> 
> wrote:
> > > > I think that the Russian metsh' "sword" is of Gothic origin 
> (there 
> > > are 
> > > >  a lot of Gothic or other Old Germanic loanwords in the Slavic 
> > > > languages). But the Crimean myha, with the evolution long [e] > 
> long 
> > > > [i] and k > h (facts that occure also in other Crimean Gothic 
> > > words), 
> > > > looks rather like a regular evolution of Go. mekeis than a 
> borrowing 
> > > > from Russian.
> > > > 
> > > > Francisc
> > > > 
> > > > GUTANI WIHAILAG
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In gothic-l at egroups.com, dirk at s... wrote:
> > > > > For supposedly Crimean Gothic myha = sword (Gothic, mekeis) a 
> > > slavic 
> > > > > origin could be possible. In Russian a sword is called metsh, 
> > > which 
> > > > > does sound similar to myha.
> > > > > Dirk
> > > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You are a member of the Gothic-L list.  To unsubscribe, send a 
> blank email to <gothic-l-unsubscri
> > be at egroups.com>.
> > > Homepage: http://www.stormloader.com/carver/gothicl/index.html
> > >
> 
> 
> 
> You are a member of the Gothic-L list.  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to <gothic-l-unsubscri
be at egroups.com>.
> Homepage: http://www.stormloader.com/carver/gothicl/index.html
> 



-------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~>
eLerts
It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free!
http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/8/_/3398/_/973080040/
---------------------------------------------------------------------_->

You are a member of the Gothic-L list.  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to <gothic-l-unsubscribe at egroups.com>.
Homepage: http://www.stormloader.com/carver/gothicl/index.html



More information about the Gothic-l mailing list