[gothic-l] Re: Germanic Migrations

[dirk at SMRA.CO.UK]

Bertil,

linguist are often in the happy situation of working with 'the real 
thing'. As you know, names, i.e. place names are the graveyards of 
languages and linguists can be the archaeologists of languages. For  
scientists such as the mentioned persons who have all presented major 
, recent contributions to the field by presenting real evidence, being 
called 'speculators' is quite insulting to them. I think it would be 
better to engage with the evidence and provide counter evidence 
otherwise you could run danger of being called a speculator yourself.

Dirk 



--- In gothic-l at egroups.com, Bertil Häggman <mvk575b at t...> wrote:
> Dirk,
> 
> I thought Elert and Dahl were linguists. Their theories
> are of course of limited value and as you say, there
> are no records so the field is pretty much open
> for specualtion. Dahl and Elert are no doubt
> interesting speculators and as long as their theories
> have not found the way into the history books they
> must be regarded as peripheral.
> 
> Germanically
> 
> Bertil
> 
> > we are speaking about a time were there are virtually no written 
> > documents in our area. So the usefulness of historians, as you 
> > suggest, is limited and linguists and archaeologists take centre 
> > stage. Elert, Dahl, Udolph and others bring together the latest 
> > findings from the archaeogical side (I have refered to these 
> > excavations earlier, Jastorf and Pre-Jastorf cultures) with the
> > latest linguistic research on early Germanic languages. Both fit 
> > remarkably well and even the first (tentative) genetic studies tie 
in 
> > neatly.
> > All in all, we are witnessing the undoing of the old 'Common 
Nordic 
> > Hypothesis', i.e. the end of the 'out-of-Scandinavia-Theory' in 
the 
> > Germanic 'Urheimat'-debate.


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