[gothic-l] Re: Russ/ross

[John Presco]

In Spain there was an ancient goddess worshipped by the Celts, and 
perhaps the Visagoths, called, Rosmerthe? I can see how she may fit 
into this name group, I long wondering if her name meant, Rosemary - 
Rosemerry, Merryrose, merthe being mirth? But Rausmerthe, and 
Hrothmarhs, and Rothmerr perhaps work? This goddess may be a horse 
goddess, gods and goddesses offering protection "mund". This is not 
my field, I too finding names to be good clues in my research.

Also, a Bohemian historian claims the history of Peter Von Rosenberg 
is stored in Stockholm. Here is a site on this Bohemian statesman 
that new John Dee, and took a "chivalrous ride" with William of 
Orange to the Netherlands. He was close with Emperor Rudolph, and 
married a Scwarzenberg. He appears to have been a secret Pythagerean, 
and alchemist, he worshipping a skull over his table. He made gold 
medallions for his friends to wear around their neck, so as to find 
them in the Afterlife, the Underworld where Orpheus went to retrieve 
his lover? I think Peter collected forbidden knowlege - perhaps 
Gothic? The article on his archives says there are missing books. I 
see there are Scandanavian scholars here who might find a lead, see 
what is in these chests themselves?

Jon

http://www.ckrumlov.cz/uk/osobno/i_pevoro.htm 

-- In gothic-l at egroups.com, keth at o... wrote:
> Matþaius wrote:
> >Hails
> >
> >The element rus- in names seems to meen rust or rusty color; 
perhaps
> >referring to 'reddish' hair? cf. Rosomil, Rosmunda, Rosamunda, 
Rosamud,
> 
> Rosamunde or Roswitha (not uncommon German woman's names) are 
supposed
> to derive from a word hroth = fame + ending protection/strong.
> An English name like Roger also derives from a root meaning fame
> ( < Hrothgar). A Scandinavian variant is Roar.
> 
> 
> >Rosamoni < *Rusamals? *Rusamunda (, *Rusamods), *Rusamunan. At 
least we know
> >of Go. rauþs and rusma, both meaning red. Another possibility 
which Koebler
> >overlooks (perhaps for good reason?) but I find intriguing is the 
> >element Raus 'fame', as in Rausimodus. This at least seems much 
more in
> >keeping with naming tradition; often this au "diphthong" is seen 
in latinic
> >transcriptions as 'o'.
> 
> 
> >The goths, at least of Wulfila's era, used the word 'marhs' to 
indicate
> >horse, though certain types of horses had specific names, e.g. 
Guta "Gothic"
> >(perhaps not used by the Goths themselves), Bala "Blaze" whence 
Byzantine
> >Bala's. 'Aihvs' was known (cf. Lat. equus, OE eoh) but mainly as 
the name of
> >the rune E.
> >
> In Norway Jostein and Jofrid are not uncommon.
> Jór m. = horse would then be the same as *ehwaz, equus, hippos, 
etc..
> 
> I don't know how much of these names are/were related to the sex of 
the horse,
> its type (workhorse, riding horse etc) or perhaps color (blakk).
> 
> Maybe we here have an opportunity to test the usefulness of Winfred
> Lehmann's book:
> 
> ON             Gothic
> ross/hross -> nothing
> jor -> A 67 =  *aihvatundi = a prickly bush????
> merr -> nothing
> hestr -> nothing
> 
> So, in this case it doesn't seem useful at all.
> Perhaps it is a bit too narrow or mathematical in its scope
> and fails to refer to closely related spellings in its
> cross-reference scheme. At least I'd expected to find something
> under "merr", which I'd think would be quite a common word.
> But I can't find 'marhs' in Streitberg's Wörterbuch either.
> So maybe that is the reason.
> 
> 
> 
> Keth


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