[gothic-l] Re: Gothic influence on Baltic Prussians

[Håkan]

--- In gothic-l at y..., dirk at s... wrote:
> 
> We had a short discussion about a possible Gothic influence on the 
> later Prussians (Prussen, a Baltic people) before. However, I have 
now 
> received some Russian material about the recently rediscovered 
Prussia 
> Collection in Kaliningrad/Koenigsberg, which contained among others 
> early Prussian and Gothic artefacts and the text suggests a certain 
> continuity between the Vistula Gothic Willenberg/Wielbark culture, 
the 
> so called Masovia- Germanic culture of the 6th/7th century and the 
> early Prussian culture. Interestingly, Wolfram suggests in his book 
> 'The Goths', that parts of the Baltic Galindi joined the Goths, 
which 
> is also attested by Gothic personal names like Galindai. 
> 
> The Galindi were a Prussian subtribe like the Samen (not to be 
> confused with the Scandinavian Saami) and Kuren. The Galindi 
settled 
> in the Masovia (Masuren) region were also Willenberg/Wilbark is 
> situated and which may provide the link between the Gothic and the 
> Prussian culture. From the 12th century the Prussians were absorbed 
> into a population of German settlers, but the name Galinden 
remained 
> in use until the 18th century.
> 
> cheers
> Dirk
> 
> For the Masovia-Germanic culture see:
> V. I. Kulakov, "Mogil'niki zapadnoi chasti Mazurskogo poozer'ia 
> konca  V-nachala VIII vv. " _Barbaricum_ 1 (1989),148-276; 
>                   
>             -- "Gräber pruzzischer Stammesführer aus Warnikam," 
> Eurasia Antiqua_ 3 (1990), 595-628].

Hi Dirk!
I just remember that I had a discussion with a guy on dejanews.com
(not sure if that´s the adress now). He mentioned the jatvingians and 
also that he thought that vandals came from the baltic verb vendit, 
which meant "watch, guard". He also had a theory that the goths were 
followed by baltic people. It´s possible that he had read Wolfram. 
Hi´s and yours ideas seams very similar.  



Håkan Liljeberg


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