[gothic-l] Re: Lukman

Tore Gannholm tore.gannholm at SWIPNET.SE
Fri Feb 2 09:37:20 UTC 2001


If we know who has the rights we can also ask for a permission to use the
material, even make a reprint.
Kind regards Tore Gannholm

>Dear F.X., thank you very much for your interest in Lukman.
>With regard to copy right, I suppose it is 50 years after an author's
>death that is internationally valid limit, which would certainly make
>everything Lukman wrote copyright for the lifetime of most
>people on this list. However, there is also a rule that
>limited parts of "åndsverk" may be quoted for scientific purposes.
>Hence, I cannot see any objection towards quoting a sentence or two,
>here and there. But if you would be able to obtain an official
>permit, that would be the best thing. And should any objection
>arise, I think the polite thing to do would be to refrain from
>quoting - though I think that would indeed be a great loss for
>those who are now taking an interest in the results of his work,
>as well as his thinking.
>
>
>
>>Dear colleagues and others,
>>An interesting posting by Prof. Lars Hemmingsen on the forum ANSAXNET
>>concerning Professor Lukman's dissertation can be found at:
>>http://www.gendex.com/users/jast/D0014/G0000045.html
>>
>>(I hope I did the link correctly)
>>
>>Excerpt from the posting:
>>(Might step on a few toes, it is not meant as such)
>>"Eric Cristiansen . . . gives good evidence that many of the genealogies
>>
>>of medieval Denmark are inaccurate or fraudulent, and that finding the
>>true lineage of the nobility is a difficult and perhaps a fruitless task
>>. . ."
>>No one ever contradicted Lukman, and only three or four people had the
>>knowledge and courage to make comments, notably Inge Skovgaard -
>>Petersen and Claus Krag in Norway. Lukman's thesis is in German, as you
>>probably noticed, but long out of print. . . .
>
>Professor Claus Krag, as you probably know, wrote a dissertation on
>Ynglingatal, where he shows that it is not an early poem (and
>genealogy) as was previously thought. Krag's book is in Norwegian,
>but contains an extensive English summary.
>
>>The legendary Danish Skjoldung
>>(=Scylding) kings -- Halfdan, Helgi, Roar, Rolf, etc. -- never
>>set foot anywhere near Denmark. They are reflections of famous
>>Migration Age rulers on the lower Danube.
>
>Yes, but if Rolf Krake is seen as reflection of the Herul king
>Rodulf, and if we are to believe Jordanes, who wrote not long
>afterwards, then Rodulf actually was a king of parts of Norway,
>who went down to Theodoric in Italy.
>
>But then there are also those who have found evidence that there
>was another "Thodoric", or better "Didrik", who was not the Theodoric
>of Ravenna, but of *Soest* in Northern Germany. Aparrently all the
>myths and legends got mixed together, with motifs borrowed in every
>direction.
>
>Best Regards
>Keth
>
>
>
>
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