[gothic-l] Re:Heruls

[trbrandt at POST9.TELE.DK]

--- In gothic-l at y..., hakan36 at s... wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., hakan36 at s... wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Troels!
> 
> Here is a link that proves that there are similar objects in 
similar 
> contexts as in Sösdala. It seems that people who had strong 
> influences from nomadic people like the huns at the Black se. 
People 
> like them have already in the 500c(in this case)berried horseriding-
> equipment in shallow pits. Or is it just the artefacts that are 
old, 
> and they were diggged down in the 600c?
> 

Hi Håkan!

I regard Sösdala and Fulltofta - and maybe Vännebo - as a
separate 
group of finds caused by a group of horsemen with earlier contact to 
the Huns in Central Europe. I do not think there is any connection to 
the offerings of weapons in Jutland and Oeland also mentioned in the 
link. My source was Charlotte Fabech (in your link) who supposed they 
were Heruls, but as far as I can see they could also belong to 
another people following the Huns. If the dating in the 5th century 
is correct they can not be the Heruls of Procopius, but as I wrote 
they could be an earlier roaming group.

Of course it would be easier if they should be dated as 6th century, 
but as you can see Charlotte Fabech did not have the motive you 
suggested in your first letter.

I have of course noticed your discussion with Ingemar and I agree in 
most of his theories about rings, but whoever of you are right the 
name had something with warriors to do. If the neighbour is a "Ring"-
village this could be a later stage. I believe there is also a 
connection with the ring button swords common in Scandinavia from the 
6th to the 8th century - very few examples of ring buttons of massive 
gold are from the 5th century. 

Troels


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