[gothic-l] vowel table; Re: Reidgotaland

[keth at ONLINE.NO]

Hi Francisc,

And thank you for your additional comments!
You wrote:
>I think that the Gothic form, in it's Wulfilan variant, would be
>rather *griut- (and *Griutuggs for Greutung), since for the common
>Germanic diphtong *eu in Gothic appears iu.

>in Gothic, "goat" = gaits, and "light" = liuhaÞ

>> For example in Norwegian we have the same verb with
>> the following main forms:
>>
>>           gjota - gyt - gaut - gotet.
>>
>
>In Gothic: giutan - gaut - gutum - gutans "to pour"
>
>           (inf.)   (pret. (pret.  (part.)
>                     sg.)   I.pl.)
>GUTANI WIHAILAG
Apropos of GUTANI : Do you believe it is related to the participle?
I assume it is a genitive form. Was the nominative form "gutans"?
And is that a plural or a singular?

In the table below, I have added the entries you suggested:

Norse   Danish   Gothic    Old English

gjota   gyde     giutan    geotan       (to pour)
ljos    lys      liuhaþ    leoht        (light)
grjot   gryt     *griut    greot        (stones/grit)
skjota  skyde              sceotan      (to shoot)
brjota  bryde              breotan      (to break)
krjúpa  krybe              creopan      (to creep)
hljoð   lyd      hliuþ     hleoþor      (sound)
bjoda   byde     biudan    beodan       (to bid)
þjoð     -       þiuda     þeod         (people)
njota   nyde     ganiutan  neotan       (to use/enjoy/catch)
frjosa  fryse    *friusan  freosan      (freeze)


gaut    gøt      got       geat         (the Goths)
gaula            gaunon
graut   grøt     grot?     great?       (porridge, grits?)
naut    nøt                neat         (cow)
dauðr   død      dauþs     dead
haug    høj
rauðr   rød      rauþs     red          (color)
blauðr  blød     blauþian  bleaþ        (weak/make weak)
lauf    løv      lauf      leaf

heiðr   hede     haiþi     hæþ          (heath)
beita   bede               bætan        (to chase, graze)
leiða   lede               lædan        (to lead)
leita   lede     wlaiton   wlatian      (to seek/stare)
meita   mede     maitan                 (to fish/cut)
feitr   fed                fætt         (fat)
geit    ged      gaits     gat          (goat, Lat. haedus)
breiðr  bred     braiþs    brad         (broad)
reiðr   vred               wraþ         (wrath)
leiðr   led                laþ          (loath)
reiða   rede                            (to prepare)
reiðr   rede               ræde         (ready)
hreiðr  rede       ?       hræþ?        (nest)


And as you see, I added some more entries as an afterthought.
It now becomes, I think, more of an undcided question,
which Germanic language Gothic is the most related to. I know
I should also add a column for "althochdeutsch". But that
I'll do some other time. As you see, it is still the
Gothic column that is the emptiest. But I suppose that will
remain so, since Gothic, although the oldest, is least well
documented. OE and ON are quite well documented, and so is
OHG, when I get to that. Does anybody have a suggestion for
a good OHG dictionary?

With respect to the Reidgoths, there is one idea that could
still be tried. But then we must assume that the usually quoted
etymology of Danish "Herred" is not entirely correct.
Now if I play devils advocate :))), I will of course suggest
that this was the system of government introduced by the returning
Heruls :)    Danish "herred" < Old Danish "hæræth", and was the
name of an land area with a certain type of government.
You also have it in Sweden as "härad" and in Norway as "herred".
In Old Norwegian it was "herað". The dictionary comments that
the word's first part undoubtedly comes from "hær" = army,
bu that the second part is of disputed origin. Could there
be a relationship to "reid" ?

Also, please note, that there is still an open space in
the table for a Gothic version of "hreiðr".


Golja þuk
Keþ.



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