[gothic-l] Re: Gothic word for King

Troels Brandt trbrandt at POST9.TELE.DK
Thu Jul 26 23:05:56 UTC 2001


Hi Keth,

A few days ago you told, that Heruls in Greek has an apostroph before 
Eruloi, making it Heruloi like Latin and German. Therefore you 
argued, that there should be an "H" in runes (and ON) too.

Now you mention an apostroph before the name of the Herulian king 
Alarixos making it Halaricus in Getica. But in Ynglingatal we have 
this name too being spelled Alrik without an "H" and two weeks ago I 
saw the Sparloesa runestone from around 800AD, 
where "alrik"/"alariku" probably is the same name as 
Greek "'Alarixos".

http://www.algonet.se/~hkkbs/sparlosa.htm

Maybe this is a simplification, but why should the "H" problem then 
prevent runic "erilaR" to be the same name as Greek "'Eruloi"?

Troels


 


--- In gothic-l at y..., keth at o... wrote:
> Hi Francisc,
> 
> >In fact, I don't know, but it looks indeed very convenable to 
> >interprete "Alaricus" as "Alareiks", "Theodericus" 
as "Thiudareiks" 
> >etc.
> 
> I also found the Greek form:
> 
>  'AláriXos
> 
>  ' = apostroph
>  A = u.c. alpha
>  l = lambda
>  á = accented alpha
>  r = rho
>  i = iota
>  X = chi
>  o = omicron
>  s = sigma
> 
> I do not know if this tells us much more, but the apostrophe is 
interesting.
> Getica § 117 and § 277 also has Halaricus.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> Keth
> 
> 
> 
> Note added :
> 
> Getica § 117 : But even if he was famous for having subdued so 
many, he was not satisfied before he had struck down a large part of 
the Herulic nation, that Halaric governed, and put the remaining ones 
under his rule. According to the historian Ablabius this nation lives 
near Maeotis marshes in swampy areas, which the Greeks call "hele" 
and for this reason the nation is called Heruls. It is a quick nation 
and therefore all the more high strung.
> 
> Getica § 117 : Sed cum tantorum servitio clarus haberetur, non 
passus est nisi et gentem Herulorum, quibus praeerat Halaricus, magna 
ex parte trucidatam reliquam suae subegeret dicioni. Nam praedicta 
gens, Ablavio istorico referente, iuxta Meotida palude inhabitans in 
locis stagnantibus, quas Greci ele vocant, Eluri nominati sunt, gens 
quantum velox, eo amplius superbissima.
> 
> Similar PN : Halamardus; W.Gmc.


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