[gothic-l] Re: Goths, Eruli in the East

[faltin2001]

> There are no conclusive proofs of Heruls going to Scandinavia at 
all, just as Dirk 
> has said all the time! I have not met many a famous Scandinavian 
historian 
> dealing with the subject or presenting evidence for such a 
migration - meaning 
> that if a migration actually took place it caused a grand shift in 
Scandinavian history that might reasonably 
> be attributed tot he Heruls. There's no way of proving that Heruls 
moved to Scandinavia [Thule] 
> and were eloquent enough to distribute a "new culture and 
religion." (Though there's still the 
> possibility that some of them actually did migrate to Thule!)
> I do, however, appreciate the theories put forth by Tore and Troels 
though, even if I do not 
> entirely agree with them!


Hi again Einar,

although I have already answered to your post, I would like to stress 
that Oscar's reply above reflects my opinion exactly.

cheers,
Dirk





 
> > The Heruli settled among East Scandinavian people. Anyway I think 
> > that it is generally accepted by scholars that this Heruli 
migration 
> > took place.I understand it so after reading the posts on Germ. 
and 
> > Gothic-L.
> 
> Einar, would you please put forth the names of the scholars 
advancing this theory, except 
> Tore and Troels? I am interested in studying their works for a more 
complete appreciation 
> of th matter! Moreover, there seems to be no scholar specialised in 
the history of Heruls... or 
> am I wrong? From where do you draw this inference from?
> 
> And they settled among East Scandinavian people.
> > So when you say that East Germanic people has nothing to do with 
East 
> > Scandinavian people then you must be expressing your privat 
opinion.
> > Most scholars do not seem to agree with you.
> 
> Again Einar, which scholars exactly are you referring to? 
Furthermore, what says that if some 
> Heruls actually moved to Thule that they did not settle on what we 
TODAY call West Scandinavian 
> territory, like Eastern Norway? The Kattegatt region as a whole 
seems like a prosperous area on the whole 
> during the Migratory period!
> 
> > > Dirk
> > >  
> > > 
> > > PS  Why do you always have to dig up such old authors? Some 
> > > significant short commings of Guthmundson's book were revealed 
on 
> > the 
> > > Germanic list some time ago.
> > 
> >  Einar*******
> > 
> >  ***  What shortcomings specifically are you talking about? 
> > And have you read his book?
> > 
> > I would like to if not opposed by the owner of the list(because 
this 
> > is maybe considered off-topic) to answer you in more detail 
tomorrow 
> > and clarify a few things. I admit that my presentation of Barðis 
> > ideas have been chaotic and not so good. That does not make his 
ideas 
> > wrong.
> > 
> > Bless Einar.
> 
> Best,
> Oskar


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