[gothic-l] Digest Number 485

[andreas.schwarcz at UNIVIE.AC.AT]

On 14 Jan 2002, at 0:06, Ingemar Nordgren wrote:

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> Theoretically what you say is correct but there is more to gain from
> what we really know. Read e.g. Wolframs lecture "Origo et religio"
> which summarizes quite well the connection between Gaut and the Asir
> inclusive Óðinn. Add also his beleive the Tervingi worshipped
> Tiwaz/Týr. Also Ingr is suggested - the predecessor of Frejr.
> Ermanarich's  death is the death of an odinistic king. The only known
> cult that had guði and guðja, like with the Goths, is the cult of
> Frejr/Freja (earlier Ingr/Ingunar).Et c., et c. Still technically you
> are right as far as the written sources specially about the Goths
> concerns.
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Dear Ingemar, 
as a pupil and long-time cooperator of Wolfram, who supervised 
both my doctoral thesis and my habilitation, I am perfectly 
acquainted with every line he wrote during the last thirty years. 
That does not mean that I follow him in everything and I think he 
undervalues the extent to which the burial customs of the Goths 
differ from their neighbours and Scandinavia. Of course  I know that 
Gautr is one of the more seldom connotations of Odin, but "Gaut", 
Gothus, can simply mean "Spreader (of semen)" i.e. man, or 
people of the river. There is no indication of an actual worship of 
either Odin or Tiwas or Ingr. I appreciate that you concede that I 
am technically right about the written sources.
Kind regards
                     Andreas 
Ao.Univ.Prof.Dr.Andreas Schwarcz
Institut für österreichische Geschichtsforschung
Universität Wien
Dr.Karl Lueger-Ring 1
A-1010 Wien
Österreich
Tel.0043/1/42-77/272-16
Fax 0043/142-77/92-72


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