[gothic-l] Re: Goths, Eruli in the East-Migration period legends.

[Oskar Andersson]

Hi Einar,

thanks for the information. I will check it up! 
And yes, Wessén was Swedish!

Oskar


> --- In gothic-l at y..., "Oskar Andersson" <o.andersson at g...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> 
> *********Hæ Oskar.  Sorry for my late answer.
> 
> In Barthi Guthmundsson´s book it says page 166;
> "The theory that Elias Wessén has set forth[29] that the Skjoldungs 
> were Heruli will hardly be disproved. And N.C.Lukman recently adduced 
> strong arguments[30] that Hrólf kraki is the same person as the king 
> of the Heruli who was slain by the Langobards"
> 
> Einar; Meaning here Rodulf, of course.
> 
> [29] De Nordiska Folkstammarna i Beowulf (Stockholm,1927), Chapter 2.
> [30] Skjoldunge und Skilfinge(Copenhagen,1943), pp. 125-143.
> 
> In the above mentioned book by Wessén it is clear that his conclusion 
> is that the Heruli are the Skjoldungs.
> I will leave out quoting but on page 25 he says that: the Heruli are 
> the Skjoldungs.
> That is obviously his conclusion.
> 
> 
> The same conclusions were being reached by N.C.Lukman(1943) and Claus 
> Krag(1991) and to mention also, by Barthi Guthmundsson(1951)
> 
> I thought that Wessén was German and therefore writing in German but 
> after your letter I realize he is Swedish and writing in Swedish so I 
> will read his book. 
> 
>    Bless, Einar****************
> > 
> >  
> > > > What is the source that states the the Skjoldungar are the 
> > > > descendants of the Heruli??? 
> > > 
> > > ****Einar; Now I have to trust my memory. N.C Lukman claims so 
> and 
> > > did a lot of reaserch into that matter.. Claus Krag in his book 
> from 
> > > 1991(about Ynglingar and Ynglinga traditions) does very,very much 
> > > agree with him. And he is a respected scholar. Just like Lukman 
> > > actually.
> > > Another scholar with the name of I think Elias Wiesen(very likely 
> not 
> > > rightly written here) claims so too but I have not seen his 
> writings.
> > > I guess that because Claus Krag does accept Lukmans ideas and 
> found 
> > > them convincing I do guess that many other scholars do agree with 
> him.
> > > But as for now I do not know of other scholars.
> > 
> > I assume you are referring to Elias Wessén (1889-1981), a Swedish 
> linguist who was 
> > fellow of Svenska Akademin (anyone has a short biography of him? 
> Please post it 
> > to my adress, or here if you find it suiting the topics).
> > I'd be interesting in reading this part, and I ask any member 
> familiar with this 
> > passage to send me some references on it. I have some books from 
> him, and although 
> > some ideas are clearly of old, he has many interesting ideas and a 
> credible research 
> > in most cases.
> > 
> > > *** Thanks for your kind comments. Bless,bless Einar.
> > > > 
> > > > cheers,
> > > > Dirk
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Oskar
> 
> 
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