[gothic-l] Re: Heyderdahl

tigerlipped tigerlipped at YAHOO.CA
Tue Jul 9 16:31:55 UTC 2002


--- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., "tigerlipped" <tigerlipped at y...> wrote:
> > --- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> > 
> > >  
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > The area of the Heyerdahl search had Eruli inhabitants after 
> they
> > > > migrated to northern shore of the Black Sea after the Goti.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Russian and Ukrainian archaeologists seem to dispute this 
> nowadays. 
> > > There has been no trace of Germanic (Chernyakhovsk) cultural 
> > remains 
> > > in the area north of the Sea of Azov. Instead, there has been 
> > plenty 
> > > of evidence that Sarmatians and Alans living there. It is 
> probably 
> > > more reasonable to assume that the Eastern Heruls lived further 
> > west 
> > > of the Black Sea (Moldova?), perhaps in the same region as the 
> > > Eudosiani, together with whom they may have reached the area in 
> the 
> > > first place. 
> > > 
> > > Dirk
> > 
> > Thank you for your replies to my question. I have another, if you 
> > please. According to Jordanes, (De Rebus Geticis, as quoted by 
> Thomas 
> > Hodgkin,'Barbarian Invasion of the Roman Empire. page 464 I 
> > Visigothic Invasions) when Alaric died at Cosenza, in 410, the 
> > Busento was diverted from its normal course so that the Gothic 
> > leader's grave could be excavated beneath it. 
> > 
> > When the tomb was finished, the stream was directed back into its 
> > normal channel. According to legend (?) Alaric was buried with a 
> > great deal of treasure. Has any attempt ever been made to locate 
> his 
> > tomb? 
> > 
> > Hilsen
> 
> 
> Hi Hilsen,
> 
> I understand that many attempts have been made to find Alaric's 
> grave. If I remember correctly, a news-report in the 1980s caused 
> some uproar when it claimed that the grave of Alaric had been 
> discovered. The place turned out to be from the 9th century. 
> Unfortunately, with Heyerdahl dead there is probably nobody arround 
> anymore to launch an expedition to find Alaric's grave;-)
> 
> The poem by August Graf von Platen will probably inspire many 
> treasure hunters in future:
> 
> „Nächtlich am Busento lispeln bei Cosenza dumpfe Lieder; / Aus den 
> Wassern schallt es Antwort, und in Wirbeln klingt es wieder! / Und 
> den Fluß hinauf, hinunter ziehn die Schatten tapferer Goten, / Die 
> den Alarich beweinen, ihres Volkes besten Toten......"
> 
> cheers
> Dirk

Thank you Dirk for your interesting reply. You have whetted my 
curiosity.Although my German is wanting, to say the least, I wouldn't 
mind being the ear into which the eddying Busento whispers it's 
watery secrets. (Did I receive the gist of the verse?) Thank you 
again.;-)

Hilsen


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