[gothic-l] Re: Castile and Visigothic Tradition

Carlos Carvalho cdecarvalho at SAPO.PT
Fri Jul 19 22:41:57 UTC 2002


Me again Dirk,

I agree with you, although some people here say it is historically from
Wulfila,
I think only epigraphic witnesses were preserved of the latter, contrasting
to the elaborated
handscripting, parallel to other similar styles in "Goth-free" european
countries.

In my view it is debatable that gothic language had vanished completely.
Besides onomastics, a rich field of its own, several words were inherited
bye modern Portuguese (and Castillian) vocabulary.
They wouldn't exist if no one knew the language anymore.
Difficult to explain, latin seemed overwhelmingly adopted.

Sleep tight,

Carlos Carvalho
(Maia - Portugal)

> Hi Carlos,
>
> thanks a lot for the link. I understand that the Visigothic script is
> really a Latin minuscle of Spain which preceeded the Carolingian
> script. I don't think that it has any linguistic relationship with
> the Gothic language. The name seemed to have been given to denote the
> era when it was used rather than an ethnic linguistic affiliation
> with Visigothic or the Visigoths. This would also be natural, since
> the Gothic language was discontinued among the Visigoth at a very
> early stage. In fact, the 'Tabulatura Gentes' of about 520AD calls
> the Visigoths also Valagoths (i.e. the Romanic speaking Goths).
>
> cheers
> Dirk



> --- In gothic-l at y..., "Carlos Carvalho" <cdecarvalho at s...> wrote:
> > Hi Dirk,
> >
> > By "pure" Visigothic I mean the writing that was not influenced
> > by Carolina style, that followed. Most of these documents are in
> Latin,
> > however.
> > It is indeed an old Hispanic (but also appears in France and Italy).
> > It is also said to be invented by Wulfila.
> > It is quite different from the German script who carries a similar
> name and
> > appears here and there. (if we are talking about the same font-
> style)
> >
> > Please have a look at:
> > http://medievalwriting.50megs.com/scripts/history4.htm
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Carlos Carvalho



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