[gothic-l] Re: Eruli: Etymology and Scandinavia V

Lada smntpk at PTT.YU
Mon Mar 4 16:17:41 UTC 2002


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From: xigung <keth at online.no>
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Subject: [gothic-l] Re: Eruli: Etymology and Scandinavia V


> Sorry, Bertil, it was you who proposed
> Swedish runic inscriptions with initial H
> as evidence for Scandinavian Heruls, not me.
>
> --- In gothic-l at y..., "Bertil Haggman" <mvk575b at t...> wrote:
> > Keth,
> >
> > Always welcome your great insights. Taylor,
> > as I mentioned at some length last year is
> > in full support of the Eruli solution. H is inorganic;
> > otherwise we would expect to find Latin forms
> > in Ch-. which do not occur.
>
> That would be like the Russian H (a throat H).
> At some point the throat-H must have disappeared from
> Germanic, though, because it is gone now.
> Perhaps we can check the sources on this point a bit.
>
> I agree with you that "inorganic" is a good description
> of the modern Swedish H, especially when compared to
> the throat H. How do you suppose the ancient Greeks
> pronounced Herakles, Helios and Hellas?
>
> e-mailically
> Keth
>
> Inorganic, it is. At the time, the sound /h/ was not pronounced in either
Greek or Latin. We are speaking here about byzntine Greek, not ancient
Greek,so they pronounced Iraklis, Ilios, Ellas.
                                                 sincerely Yours
                                                                  IL Akkad
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