[gothic-l] Baltic cultures: was Re: Digest Number 538

faltin2001 dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Thu Mar 21 15:58:39 UTC 2002


--- In gothic-l at y..., Tore Gannholm <tore.gannholm at s...> wrote:
> >
> >  > Dirk,
> >>  You have a very good list in "Gothic connections",  although 
most
> >of
> >>  the Swedish are missing.
> >>  I will pic a few
> >>
> >>  H. Hansson Gotlands bronsålder 1927
> >>  M Stenberger Ölands järnålder 1933
> >>  M Stenberger Det forntida Gotland 1945
> >>  B Nerman Yngre Bronsålder- En första svensk vikingatid 1954
> >
> >
> >O dear, please read J. Blischke's article (op. cit.) on the history
> >of research on the Goths. These authors now belong to this history!
> >
> >Also, I noted that you gave no answer to my first question. So I
> >shall ask again: Please provide the name of this common Baltic
> >culture that existed in 300BC. Also, could you explain how the
> >Oksywie culture, Przeworsk culture and the West-Baltic culture fit
> >into this common Baltic culture. All of these cultures existed in
> >300BC and are clearly distinguishable from each other.
> >
> >Dirk
> 
> Dirk,
> If Blischke considers the Gotlandic archaeological finds as 
history, 
> he is not credible.


Tore,

he is obviously not considering the actual finds as history, but the 
reports and interpretations of the 1920s/30s and 40s are part of the 
history about the research on the Goths. These interpretations have 
to be seen in the context of the time in which they were made.



> The monuments and archaeological finds are very 
> much there.


That is not surprising.




> Some have been stolen and sold to museums such as Berlin and > 
British museum.



You mean the Berlin Museum buys stolen artefacts?;-)





> 
> The majority is still here. I can't see any other way than to 
compare 
> what we have in Gotland with what the archaeologists find in Poland.
> 


That is exactly what archaeologists like Hachmanna and Bierbrauer 
have done.




> Pottery is one way find out contacts. Here is one example:
> 
> The Otterböte pottery constitutes a vast material which has been 
> re-analysed during recent years. In a dissertation at Stockholm 
> University, Kenneth Gustavsson shows that most of the pottery found 
> at Otterböte is imported. 
His thesis is strongly supported by an 
> analysis of the ware as well as by an analysis of macro fossils 
> present in the clay. The vessels were most probably manufactured in 
> an area near the Baltic coast in present-day Poland. 


That is very interesting! Could it be that the Goths and other 
Wielbark people exported to Gotland? What is the timeframe of this 
Otterboete pottery? Is it a specific industry?


Dirk


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