[gothic-l] Re: Namó S(w)aúrtis jah namna funins

konrad_oddsson konrad_oddsson at YAHOO.COM
Thu Nov 7 04:45:07 UTC 2002


Háils Þiudans.

Láisareis góþs is þu!

> BTW re: the subject line: the gen. sg. of fon 'fire' is funins.

Yes, thank you for the correction.

> The main question concerning the vowels in s-rt- "black" is one of 
ablaut-gradation, ex. number 3 in section 61of Gordon's grammar. ON 
shows this in svartr - Surtr. These belongs to gradation 3 (i.e. 
that of the strong verbs of the 3rd conj.), which occurs before 
certain consonants: Gmc: eC - aC - uC, oC. In ON this shows that the 
adj. is the second part, and the proper name the third part (with 
W+U > U assim., which occurs generally in Gmc.), which are in verbs 
reserved for preterite sg. and pret. pl. (or pret. participle) 
respectively. In Gothic these forms should regularly appear in the 
verb wairthan: [wairth-] - warth - waurthun (waurthan-); so also, we 
postulate the adj. gradation thus, eliminating the first part which 
neither occurs in ON or Go. [swairt-] - swart- - saurt-*. *This last 
form has: swurt- with [U+R breaking] and [W+U > U assim.], wherefore 
*Saurts. For W+U > U assim. in Gothic, see Wright  ss146. If there 
was a strong relationship felt with 'swart-' however, it is possible 
that the older theoretical form with -w- would have been retained: 
*Swaurts: cf. swultum beside swiltan, qumum beside qiman.

Yes, there is indeed a possibility that the older theoretical form 
with -w- would been retained. We could then postulate the name of 
the fire-giant thus: N. S(w)aúrts, A. S(w)aúrt, G. S(w)aúrtis, D. S
(w)aúrta. Also, from the evidence of Old German and Norse personal 
names, we could probably postulate a linguistically related Gothic 
personal name thus: N. Swarts, A. Swart, G. Swartis, D. Swarta. The 
former would be the name of the fire-giant and the latter of a Goth.
While I´m not sure that there´s any evidence of an individual Goth 
bearing the name Swarts, it would seem to make sense from cognate 
tongues. Thank you again for your enlightened response.

Regards,
Konrad.


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