[gothic-l] Gothic word for wicca, and wicce

Le Bateman LeBateman at NETZERO.NET
Fri Nov 15 05:15:54 UTC 2002


Hails Aaron et  al
     There is a word wicca used in 10th century Anglo-Saxon England.
Wulfstan used it in his Address  to the English. I am sorry that I did not
make myself clear. I am looking for perhaps the Gothic counterpart to the
Anglo-Saxon words wicca ( msc n) and wicce ( fem. n) any definition would
help. I thought it was like the ME English word Wicker. See Wulfstan
translates the word wicca as Wizard now Henry Sweet  uses the  Feminine form
wicce for witch, but Wulfstan uses the word wælcyrige for witch. I was
looking for the equivelant to these, the definition and the sources. I
thought it meant to bend, crook.  Someone from another list said it meant
wise. Thank you
Le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Holt" <Holtingar at ccis.net>
To: <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [gothic-l] Gothic word for wicca, and wicce


In follow-up to my last post, I would like to point out that I'm unsure if
Le was looking for the modern, new-age, word Wicca, as in the religion.
There is an OE word wicce but there is absolutely no reference to use of the
OE word wicce in terms of the above religious categorization, since the
religion Wicca (note the final a instead of e) is mainly a product of the
1960's. However the word is used to mean something like "necromancer" or
"sorceror" (if I can remember what source material I found this in I'll post
it later) and is the root word for the modern Wicca. It is an incorrect
etym. that places the word Witch as a derivative of this word. In fact,
apart from the revived and semanticly different usage there is no derivative
of the word in Modern English.

-Aaron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman at NetZero.Net>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:38 PM
Subject: [gothic-l] Gothic word for wicca, and wicce


>   I would like to know the Gothic word for wicca, and wicce and any proto
> Gothic word, and  what the root is and the sources for this please. Also
the
> definition as well. Someone from another list told me it meant wisdom. I
had
> seen
> a definition to bend or to  twist. Also just curious  in Wulfstan's
Address
> to the English. He uses the word wælcyrige  what Gothic equivalent is
there.
> Thank you
> Le
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