[gothic-l] Greutung, Therving

Егоров Владимир vegorov at IPIRAN.RU
Wed Nov 27 07:00:11 UTC 2002


Hi!
(Probably a more suitable greeting would be 'Hail' but I'm not sure yet in my Gothic.)

Having fortunately stumbled across your site, I thought that just here I could find someone who would kindly clarify a few questions of my interest because, as I hope, these questions may appear in fact of our mutual (maybe common?) interests.

I'm not a linguist and even not historian though comparative linguistics, history of languages and, as a consequence, ancient history are my hobbies. Now I plunged into the problem of the origin of the ethnonym 'Rus'. As you probably know, the problem is still not solved and remains among most thrilling historical riddles (especially for us, Russians).

I have my own nontrivial conjectures concerning this topic, and those conjectures "decisively" direct me at the ancient Goths. However, I'd like to make clearer some hazy points prior to insist on my conclusions. These points are:

1) Where is the etycon 'greutung' originated from, what is its correct original spelling (e.g. 'greutung' or 'greuthung'), and to which tribes (flocks) it is applicable?
All the same for 'therving'.

2) Almost the same regarding 'Reidgotland'. What could it mean? What is its correct spelling? (A version that I have accasionally come across is 'Hraid-Gotaland' transliterated thus from a runic stone of the IX century.) Which way should it sound in the Gothic language of the IV century (perhaps rather the Gothic dialect of the ancient Germanic language)?

Being a novice, I can't address my questions personally. But I hope somebody of GOTHIC-L's haunters would voluntarily sacrifice themselves to help me.

Thank you in advance.

With best regards,
Vladimir Egorov
(Moscow, Russia)

e-mail: vegorov at ipiran.ru



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