[gothic-l] Re: Goths and Getae

faltin2001 dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Thu Jul 3 08:37:44 UTC 2003


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <sunnyjat12002 at y...> wrote:
> Hi Francisc and Dirk,
>
> Call me stubborn, but please your views on this 1687 Scandinavia
work:
>
> http://www.dacia.org/lundius/clundius-eng.pdf
>
> Regards,


Hi Sunny,

this book falls within the height of Scandinavian Gothicism, ie.
Swedish nationalism based on the belief that they were some sort of
heirs to the Goths and most other ancient Germanic peoples. You
should read this book with that in mind.

Take for example the grand address to the king. He is called Carolus
XI. Yet, another Swedish 'historian' had earlier invented a few
Swedish kings, meaning that the counting to 11, is entirely wrong.
Also, Karl was certainly not king of the Goths let along the Vandals.
Neither was he the prince of Bremen, Verden etc. and especially has
he never been anything remotely resembling a duke of the Bavarian
mountains.

The book is dedicated to legitimising Swedish intervention on the
continent and aimed at agrandising the status of the Swedish nation.
(At this time Swedish influence on the continent was in steep
decline. In 1675, the Prussians had defeated the Swedes at Fehrbellin
and in a few years time 1712, the Russians would do the same at
Poltawa.) As such, this work is not useful for the study of ancient
people like the Getae and Goths, but it is only useful for studying
the extend and exesses of Swedish Gothicism during this period.

Cheers
Dirk




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