[gothic-l] Re: GUTANI WIHAILAG

[Francisc Czobor]

Hi, Vladimir

Thank you very much for the correction. I suspected that the 
adjective "goticheskij" refers rather to the "gothic" architectural 
style than to the East-Germanic Goths, but I was not sure.

With best regards,
Francisc

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, åÇÏÒÏ× ÷ÌÁÄÉÍÉÒ <vegorov at i...> wrote:
> To Francisc Czobor
> 
> Hi, Francisc!
> 
> I dare add a couple of comments to your translations 
> of the word 'Goth' / 'Gothic' in diverse languages, 
> specifically regarding Russian. 
> (Probably you need to apply the Cyrillic coding 
>  to see some spellings properly.)
> 
> >>> Russian: got, pl. goty, adj. goticheski
> 
> 1. The Russian language has two adjectives for 'Gothic':
> a) 'ÇÏÔÓËÉÊ' [gotskij] that means general belonging 
>    or relation to the Goths;
> b) 'ÇÏÔÉÞÅÓËÉÊ' [gotit?eskij] with the restricted use 
>    concerning the late medieval (12-15 cc.) 
>    architecture and type.
> 
> 2. Old Russian knows the Goths as 'ÇßÔÙ' 
> (attested in some treaties of Novgorod and Smolensk 
>  with "the Gothic Shore and Latin Language", 13th c.). 
> I am at a loss here for a transcription. 
> Anyhow, the consonant is undoubtedly [t] 
> while the vowel might be something between [o] and [a] 
> though a sound like [o] is also probable.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Vladimir


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