[gothic-l] Re: Dirk

[Sunny]

Hi Dirk, 

Crubezy writes about the practice of skull deformation in Europe:

"One problem is to identify the origin of the practice of skull 
deformation.  If a possible source is believed to be some external 
ethnic population, this could well be the Visigoths, who settled in 
418 in this region.  The Goths had been in contact very early on with 
peoples who practiced this custom, especially during their migration –
 to the shores of the Black Sea in 257-8.  Some deformed skulls have 
been attributed to them: those from Feszthely-Fenekpuskza, Hungary, 
those from Vienna, Austria, two from the Kvanj cemetery, Yugoslavia, 
those from Padua and Florence, Italy (Crubezy 1990: 192-193)."
 
Back to Getae and Goth – I was under impression that the term "Goth" 
was coined by the Romans?:

Christensen does comment on the following point made by Jakob Grimm, 
please note Grimm was not the last to defend this view:

"J. Grimm was the last to defend an opposing view, based on the 
argument that the Getae are mentioned during early Antiquity.  They 
later disappear completely, while the Goths appear in the sources at 
approximately the same time.  Was it conceivable that the Getae just 
suddenly disappeared?   His point is, of course, that a certain 
people were initially referred to as Getae and later came to be 
called Goths (Christensen 2002: 247)."

Waddell claims about the name "Goth", he believes it was first 
applied by the Romans, "
the aspirated form `Goth' having been coined 
by the Romans and never used by the Goths themselves (Waddell 1929: 
545, 584)."

Bradley writes, "[T]he name which, following the Romans, we spell 
as `Goths' was properly Gutans – in the singular Guta (Bradley 1888: 
5)."

Rawlinson says, "Now it is almost certain that the Getae – one of the 
principle Thracian tribes, according to Herodotus – are the Gothi or 
Gothones of the Romans, who are the old German Guthai or Guthans, and 
our Goths (Rawlingson 1880: 181)."

Kephart states, "The Goths originally were known to the Greeks as the 
Getae, but often were referred to as Scythians, a geographical term.  
Thus, such compound tribal names as Massagetae, Thyssagetae, 
Tyrigetae, etc. show a striking analogy to the later names of 
Ostrogoths and Visigoths used by the same people.  The later Roman 
name was Gothi or Gothones (Kephart 1960: 263)."

Cited:

Bradley, H. The Goths From the Earliest Times to the End of the 
Gothic Dominion in Spain. New York. Putnam's Sons: 1888.

Crubezy, E. "Merovingian skull deformation in the southwest of 
France." In From the Baltic to the Black Sea, Studies in medieval 
archaeology.  Edited by Austin, D. and Alcock, L. London. Unwin Hyman 
Ltd.: 1990.

Christensen, A.S. Cassidorus Jordanses and the History of the Goths 
Studies in a Migration Myth. Copenhagen.  Museum Tusculanum Press: 
2002. 

Rawlinson, G., with Rawlinson, H. and Wilkinson, J. The History of 
Herodotus - A New English Version. Vol. 3. New York. D. Appleton and 
Company: 1880.

Kephart, C. Races of Mankind Their Origin and Migration. New York. 
Philosophical Library: 1960.

Waddell, L.A. The Makers of Civilization in Race and History. Delhi. 
Reprinted by S. Chand & Co.: 1968, First Published in 1929.

Best Wishes, 



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