[gothic-l] Re: (unknown)

[matthew carver]

Koebler suggests
Go. *Bala- refers orig. to 'white', and spec. a horse with a white 
marking, i.e. a "blaze" (cf. Byz. 'balas'), prob. < s. germ. *bala- 
"white, light, shining" < PIE (Pok.) *bha'-(1). THere is the gothic adj. 
*bal-s, PIE *bhel-(1) v. ref. (Pok.). It may be an extended form in 
*blagks < *blankaz "white" (> it. bianco, fr. blanc).

There is of course baltic similarity in Lith. balts "white", Rus. byel-.


-Matthew
On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 12:39 AM, faltin2001 wrote:

> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, åÇÏÒÏ× ÷ÌÁÄÉÍÉÒ <vegorov at i...> wrote:
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>> I have not a direct answer on your question
>> regarding the "barbaric" word "balan".
>> But I draw your attention to the Russian word
>> "bulany" as a horse color. "Bulany" is regularly
>> translated in English as "dun" though old
>> Russian explanatory dictionaries treat the notion
>> as "ore-yellow, yellowish of diverse tints,
>> with the mane and tail being black or deep-brown,
>> and usually with a strap along spinal column".
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>> I do not know the exact origin of "bulany" but
>> Turkic (Kuman) extraction looks most probable.
>> I guess you should search in this direction.
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>> Good luck,
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>> Vladimir
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> Hi Vladimir,
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> perhaps 'belyi' Russian for white is a possible link? Not sure
> what 'white' would be in Old Slavonic.
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> cheers
> Dirk
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: greg scaff [mailto:g_scaff at y...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:22 AM
>> To: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [gothic-l] (unknown)
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>> Hails,
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>>      I am curious as to the origin of the word "balan", mentioned
> in Procopius'  History of the Wars, V, XVlll, in my vol, p
> 173, ",,,and his whole body was dark grey, except that his face from
> the top of his head to the nostrils was the purest white.  Such a
> horse the Greeks call "phalius" and the barbarians "balan." Within
> the context of this passage it seems that Procopius was referring to
> Ostrogoths as the barbarians in question, but not definatively.  I'm
> aware that "balan" is unattested as a Gothic word.  Can it be
> identified as having  a known Iranic/Turkic/Arabic or other origin?
> Are there any Germanic  cognates? Has anyone studied this word
> before?  I would appreciate your ideas and comments, thank you.
>>
>> Greg
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