[gothic-l] Boyar and related

?????? ???????? vegorov at IPIRAN.RU
Tue Sep 23 05:38:24 UTC 2003


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Hi, Gazariah!



The explanation

"of /bo/ in the proposed /bo+jarl/ version"

has been given at the very first mention.
"bo" in "bo jarl" should mean
building, manor, village (cf. HG "bau",
OE and Swedish "by" - village,
Danish "by" - town).



Vladimir



-----Original Message-----
From: gazariah [mailto:brahmabull at hushmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 6:56 PM
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Subject: [gothic-l] Boyar and related


Hi, Vladimir!

> Yes, the word [delit']
> in Russian means "to divide" and "to share".
> But the meanings for [udelit'] are rather
> "to spare" or "to find (time for something)"
> than "to divide" or "to share". Using
> the prefix [u-] is unjustified here
> unless it is, for instance, provoked by
> Germanic "odal".

Vladimir, your argument is based on modern Russian, but semantics
change. Consider how /deal/ is used now in English, compared with
Modern German /teilen/. If you consider /u-chast'/ "lot, fate"
with /chast'/ meaning "share," or /u-rok/ "agreement" (/urochnyj/ has
this meaning in modern Russian) from /rek~rok/ "speak," you will see
the justification for prefix /u-/, which many examples show can mean
the result of a process.

> I did not find the stem [bolii] in any
> Slavic language. Only Russian has [bol'eje] as
> "greater" or "more", but this stem is not so old.

Old Church Slavic /bolii/ (Old Bulgarian is another name for this
language.)
Bulgarian /bol'e/
SerboCroat /bolji/
Slovene /bolje/
All of these mean "greater" or "better"
Further:
Sanskrit /bal-/ "strong"
Greeki /bel-t-/ "better"
Latin /de-bil-/ "weak, deprived of strength."

So the root is well established in IE.

But /bojarin/ is a nut that nobody has really cracked yet, and I
doubt it can be cracked here.

By the way, I am still waiting for the explanation of /bo/ in the
proposed /bo+jarl/ version.

Regards,
Gazariah





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