[gothic-l] Re: "Umlaut" in Gothic?

Егоров Владимир vegorov at IPIRAN.RU
Wed Sep 24 10:47:24 UTC 2003


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No doubt, Nestor is worth reading.
Of course, he could not think out
everything written in the Original
Chronicle. There are some real facts
in the underground.



But still, when reading Nestor, I'd
suggest you to investigate three
startling personages of the chronicle.
The chronicle mentions a ringleader
Vadim Khrabry (killed by Ruric in
Novgorod) and two jarls Ascold and Dir
(co-rulers in Kiev murdered by the Rurik's
successor Oleg). These personages put
an idea into my head. Pay please your
attention to resemblance of three names
with personages of the Scandinavian epos:

Vadim Khrabryj - (V)odin Radbard (Raudbard)
Ascold -- Skjold
Dir - Tyr.

Other parallels fortify this resemblance.
Odin Ra(u)dbard (alias Vadim Khrabryj)
was represented as a konung of Gardariki
or Austrriki (i.e. Initial Russia) in Edda
and Hrolv Passenger Saga (I beg your pardon
for possibly incorrect spelling of the saga
title). Skiold and Tyr (alias the Kiev
co-rulers Ascold and Dir) were sons of Odin,
and Odin designated Skjold as a konung of
Reidgotaland, which might be identified
with the Gothic realm (e.g. of Ermanaric)
on the territory of modern Ukraine.
(All this has been written in more detail
in my brochure "Rus and Rus again", but it
is in Russian.)



So, I can repeat following you:
we have much work ahead of us.



Good luck!

Vladimir



-----Original Message-----
From: Tore Gannholm [mailto:tore.gannholm at swipnet.se]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:07 PM
To: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [gothic-l] Re: "Umlaut" in Gothic?


Hi Vladimir!
I can only agree with you.
I have understood that these ideas started already during the 19th
century but were officially supported later on.

We have much work ahead of us. I am trying to gather all sources I
get hold of on my research library. Unfortunately, as you have seen,
most of it is in Swedish, The Russian documents I can't read.

About Nestor, I have it in front of me.
However one has to read it very carefully as he is mixing religion
with actual happenings.

Tore






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