[gothic-l] Re: Gothic identity

[Ingemar Nordgren]

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:

Hi Dirk,
You wrote:

"The very name of the Goths seemed to have faded into the background
in the course of the 4th century and the various new tribal groups in
that regions preferred names like Vesi, Terwingi, Taifali, Greutungi
etc."


How comes you know these are NEW tribal groups? The Goths of course
allways were divided in tribes. 'Tribe' is called kunja or kuni in 
Dacia. There are a lot of people having worked with these names and
been able to show similarities both in e.g. Balticum and Scandinavia,
but so there is of course also Hachmann who means the Tervingi should
be the wood-people and named in the Pontic basin. Svennung has a
distinct idea of a lot of these names and Wolfram regards Tervingi as
an old name.I think Heather will place the Taifali as a Wielbark-tribe
in opposition to Wolfram who sees it as an eastern rider-people of
Asiatic origin. What you have is a set of opposing ideas and no base 
claiming  these tribes for new. Wenskus straight off says that the 
great migration did not take place in one body under a þiudans but
under a number of various tribal kuningaz -reiks.These tribes must
have had names of course even if they all were Goths. The Greutungi
e.g. just happened to be the biggest tribe among the Ostrogoths.

This is no general criticisme of what you wrote but just a friendly
remark.

Best greetings
Ingemar



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