[gothic-l] Re: Gothic 'jah'

Francisc Czobor fericzobor at YAHOO.COM
Tue Jun 22 09:11:28 UTC 2004


Dear Dirk,

in the messages no. 1252 and 1407 on this list, posted by me in 
December 1999, I have shown that the etymology proposed for jah is 
ja "yes" + (u)h "and" (thus "yes and" (cf. Germ. "ja und" or "ja 
auch"). This etymology is given also by Köbler 
(http://www.koeblergerhard.de/germanistischewoerterbuecher/gotischeswo
erterbuch/GOT-J.pdf).
In the same messages I wrote that I have found something related in 
Old High German: in Otfried's Gospel (9th century): joh = "and"; in 
Notker's Book of Logic (11th century): ióh = "and". (it seems that 
these words come from ja+uh, while the Gothic word from ja+h).

Francisc

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I was wondering about the Gothic word 'jah' for 'and'. In most 
> Germanic languages this seems to be based on a different word. I.e. 
> German: und/auch, English: and, Swedish: och/samt, Danish: og, 
Dutch 
> en,  etc. The only Germanic dialect were I encountered a similar 
word 
> is a  Ostfalian sub-dialect of Lower Saxon which uses a word 
sounding 
> like 'jach' for 'and'. I always assumed that this was a contraction 
> of 'ja auch', but perhaps this originates from the same common 
> Germanic word as the Gothic 'jah'?  
> 
> Cheers
> Dirk



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