a Gothic poem (verse 3)--syntax, word usage

Jacob L. Bateman III LeBateman at ATT.NET
Mon Aug 15 03:41:22 UTC 2005


saiwala is the spirit or soul It resembles the OE word sawol soul? Is GAIST
spirit.
Le.

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Here I'm back again. :-)

>see J 6,52; J 8,15; Mt 6,22; Col2,19; R 7,15; R 7,25; R 8,1-10, and
so
>on. This seems to be the normal way. (All but the first of these
>examples are abstract).

Some are already made definite by a possessive pronoun or by 'alls',
but yes, it seems to be clear that the article/demonstrative is
usually omitted in such cases. I've also stumbled upon _witôþ_
'law',
it's abstract and general most of the time and usually without
article/demonstrative as well.
'World' being a special case sounds logical, maybe it's a fixed
construction or a kind of fortification..


Third stanza:

Þáu fônu, sáiwala qiwa,
Or fire, [a] spirit [which is] quick,

Þaírh ita diwand waíhteis
By it die the things,

Akei rûna libáináis raíhtis,
Yet [a] secret [of] life indeed,

Gudane baírhta giba?
[Of] the gods [a] bright gift?


Is it possible to put an adjective after the noun? (Streitenberg's
syntax part isn't online, hmpf.. I looked up in Wright's grammar (pp.
182-194) but couldn't find anything concerning this point..) And if
not, what about a relative clause with omission of the copula, so:
_sáiwala soei qiwa [ist]_?

I'm not sure whether _raíhtis_ can be used this way.. Streitenberg
translates it with German 'nämlich, doch, etwa' which cannot be
used
in the meaning of English 'indeed', but my guide was Mat.9:37:
_asans
raihtis managa_ 'the harvest truly is plenteous' (seems by the way to
show the omission of 'to be'). In the German Bible translation it is
just 'the harvest is plenteous' (die Ernte ist gross).









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