Thuringians = Tervingian Goths

[faltin2001]

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, macmaster at r... wrote:
> 
> The main questions I would have regarding this theory are:
> -- why wouldn't anyone 400-600 have called the 
Thuringians "Goths"?  They
> were allied to Theodoric's italian kingdom and generally appear as
> themselves but no mention is made of Northern Goths.  the Gothic 
name at
> this time would be far more prestigious and I would assume that it 
would
> be much vaunted.
> -- wouldn't this involve a major linguistic shift from East 
Germanic?  Is
> there any evidence of this?
> 
> Tom
> 
> 

Hi Tom,

excited that somebody actually did respond to this new and important 
theory I forgot to comment on you second point. The author Grahn-Hoek 
does not discuss linguistics in the study and I don't really have an 
answer. I suppose the question how 'major' was the different between 
East- and West Germanic in 380AD. We know from historical sources 
that at least two (probably three) West Germanic groups were 
incorporated into this Teruingi-Teuringi kingdom: Warnians, Anglians 
and Suebians. If the linguistic difference was mostly dialectual than 
this combination would have led to a levelling of the languages over 
the following centuries. However, personal names are usually 
conservative and several authors have in the past noted that 
Thuringian personal names (e.g. Ermenefrid, Artagais, Radagais, 
Radegundis, Ermenegisl, Amalafrid etc.) are more typical of East 
Germanic than West Germanic names. Finally, there is no written 
evidence of the Thuringian language/dialect before 800AD.

Cheers
Dirk







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