Neologisms....

[llama_nom]

> What do you think bout Karl Marks and 
> Frithureiks Aiggels, or something like that, instead of their real 
> spellings?



Engels I think just means "English", so you could even translate 
that as Friþureiks *agg(i)liska "F. the English".  You could also 
inflect Karl, nominative Karls.  Under the entry for 'churl', the 
OED has:

OE. ceorl:--WGer. kerl (Fris. tzerl, MDu. kerel, kerle, Du. kerel, 
MLG. kerle, MG. kerl(e, Ger. kerl, pointing to OTeut. types *kerlo-
z, *kerlon-, beside *karlo-z, *karlon-, which gave ON. karl, OHG. 
charl, charlo...)

The *o here in inflectional endings became *a in PrG, hence these 
would normally be quoted as -az (a-stem) and -an (an-stem) 
respectively.




> About oppress I have looked at words like wrikan, wrakjan and 
kaurjan 
> and I thought at that time that these wheren't exactly the same as 
> oppress. Persecution doesn't have to be involved in oppresion, 
right? 
> A oppressed people could just be discriminated or be cut out of 
some 
> rights etc.


It's a slippery slope though.  To me the social meanings 
of 'persecution' and 'oppression' don't seem to be necessarily all 
that clearly distinct from each other.  Both could include physical 
violence.  Or either could refer to a combination of more subtle 
niggling abuses.  Both could be inflicted on a group of people, but 
it would be more usual to talk about persecuting (hounding, 
harrassing) an individual.  'repression' to me suggests something 
more active than 'oppression', but that might just be me.  You can 
REPRESS a movement or a meeting or a rebellion or the opposition, 
but you wouldn't normally OPPRESS a single specific event.  But a 
people generally could be 'repressed' or 'oppressed' and that might 
amount to the same thing.  They're all negative words in the sense 
that governments wouldn't admit to such actions, even when inflicted 
on their stated enemies, but instead talk of, for 
instance, "controlling" or "clamping down on illegal immigration" 
(instead of actually oppressing/persecuting, assaulting, imprisoning 
and indeed massacring the migrants themselves).  I'm afraid I can't 
be so precise about the various Gothic words...





> About discover I also thought about finthan, and I might be totaly 
> wrong about this but I think that is more like if you are looking 
> fore something and then find it.


If you look at the examples, 'finþan' seems to be more restricted 
than English "find".  'finþan' has the sense of discovering 
information, coming to know, or learning (finding out) a 
fact.  'fanþ' and 'ufkunnaida' both translate Greek 'egnw' "came to 
know, learnt, discovered (information)".  The more general sense 
of "find" (e.g. find an object or encounter a person, also discover 
someone to be something) is covered by 'bi-gitan'.

iþ Peilatus sildaleikida ei is juþan gaswalt; jah athaitands þana 
hundafaþ frah ina jû~þan gadauþnodedi.
finþands at þamma hundafada...
"discovering/learning [that Jesus was indeed dead] from the 
centurion"
(Mk 15,25)

fanþ þan manageins filu Iudaie þatei Iesus jainar ist
"a great multitude of the Jews than discovered/learnt that Jesus is 
there"
(J 12,9)

bigetun þana siukan skalk hailana
"they found the sick servant well"
(L 7,10)



> I guess that it doesn't takes a
genius to understand what I'm tryin to do...at least Llama Nom have
figured it out :)


Yes, even me!

Llama Nom





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