Tyringi and Tervingi

[faltin2001]

> Now, you mentioned that Teruingi was also rendered with a theta, 
> meaning it did reflect the pronunciation. Couldn't it otherwise be 
> an imitation by a Greek of contemporary Latin spellings where th- 
> was written for [t] just out of ornamental reasons? This Greek 
could 
> have never heard the name being actually spoken, and simply 
followed 
> the tradition of a correspondence between Latin -th- and Greek 
theta.
> 
> If I remember right, the mainstream opinion on the etymology of 
> Teruingi connects it with PG *terwa- "tar". That is, it has 
Germanic 
> [t] in Anlaut, and this [t] is very unlikely to turn to [þ] later. 
> There are as many as no examples of such a development. If we 
fancy 
> Go. *Tairwiggos [terwingôs] being adopted into a would-be High 
> German dialect (lying below the Benrather Linie as you pointed 
out), 
> we must get something like *Zehringer. 







Hi Ualarauans,

thanks for your expert assessments. 

You are probably aware that your constructed *Zehringer corresponds 
nicely to the town and region of Zehringen in modern Thuringia (near 
Köthen). It would also match with the name of the ducal family of 
the Zähringer/Zehringer who ruled in south-west Germany.

As for the Anlaut T- or Th-. You may well be right that the Greek 
theta in Theruingi may just be a copying from Latin Theruingi. But 
the same may the case for the Thuringi. The Latin sources normally 
rendered Turingi, Tyringi and Toringi, especially the earliest 
occurances of the name. 


> 
> Of course it is important, although difficulties can sometimes 
> arise. Maybe it is worth while to make some of the "Goth-hunting" 
> DNA-research in Thüringen as well?



Something of this sort has already been done. Researchers tested 
oxygen isotopes in teeth from skeletons of the Niemberger group in 
Thuringia and could confirm that some individuals tested did not 
grow up in middle Germany, but are more likely to have spend their 
childhood in south eastern Europe. The results therefore seemed to 
confirmed the assessment of the archaeologists that this culture 
derived from the Chernyakhovsk/Sintana-de-Mures culture which is 
associated with the Terwingi. Thus, the archaeological and the 
biological evidence clearly support the story of a migration of some 
parts of the Tervingi (if that was there name) to the centre of the 
later Thuringian kingdom. The question is really only if the names 
are related as well. 

Cheers,

Dirk 




> 
> Ualarauans
>







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