Was the word "kunig/kunigas/kunigur" a gothic word?

[michelsauvant]

Hi Ingemar

Many Thanks for your fast answers and your 2 messages.

1. If  I understand you well, you support my assumption :
- If I consider that Canigo is a normal mutation after 460 years 
(around 415-875) of the name  "Kunig hauh" or "Kunighauh" (or 
something with a spelling not very far from Kunig), you have some 
reasons to think that this expression was a possible gothic 
expression used by Visigoths around 415.
- And for you the meaning is "King's height", and never "noble 
height",  

2. I found that the last Þiuðans, you mentioned in your mail, was 
Ermanarich, dead in 370. 
So, if I understand well,  a king like Alaric, living after this 
date, was named "rex" (written reiks in reconstituted gothic) only 
by Romans; and he could have been "kunig" (or something near this 
word) in the normal gothic vocabulary . But you are not sure that 
this word "kunig" was used at that time.
Note:  Alaric married himself in Narbonna (year 412). Narbonne is at 
70 kms North of Canigo. And we can see the Canigo from the hills 
around Narbonna. And the Visigoths arriving directly on boats at 
Collioure (Cautioliberis at that time) could see from the sea and 
from the port the magnificent landscape with the Canigo in the 
middle. The same I can see from my house near Collioure.

3. You presented me two other words "kindins" and "kinsman". For me 
they can't have a relation with the name Canigo. Are they gothic or 
later words for "kuni
"

4.  I think suddenly that "Canigo" could be a mutation of the 
expression "Kuni hauh". The guttural first "h" could have been mute 
in a "g" after 460 years. In this case the meaning of Canigo would 
be "Height of (our) kin". Do you think  it's  a name for a 
mountain!! 
   
5. Your answer shows me that some gothic words are not in the gothic 
glossaries I was able to read on the web (vocabulary coming from the 
Bible translated around year 350, before the end of  Þiuðans reign). 
Do you know a more completed gothic glossary we can read on the web, 
with all the words you presented me?

Salut mon ami!
Michel



--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Ingemar Nordgren" <ingemar at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi Michel,
> 
> I forgot to answer specifically on a direct question in your mail.
> 
> > This name could have been given by Goths as  "Kunighauh" .
> > But what could be the exact meaning ? 
> 
> 
> The exact translation of this above gives indeed sense. In Swedish 
it
> says 'Kungshögen'or in more correct older 
form 'konungshögen´, 'the
> king's howe' or 'the royal howe, mound, barrow'. In a broder sense
> this could be transformed to the application on natural hills or 
peaks
> as 'the king's height´' the royal height'I presume. In any 
case the
> name gives real sense.
> 
> Salut mon ami!
> Ingemar
>







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