Hello

[Pablo]

Hello Fredrik,

Thanks a lot for your mail and explanations. You got what I meant, I love to see 
and detect similarities between languages, and their influence on others. It's a 
hobby that's growing I guess. But your examples were quite good as to picture 
the whole thing.

Here in the Argentine, where we speak a particular medieval-like Spanish dialect, 
heavily influenced mostly by Italian and to a lesser extent indigenous and English 
expressions, such words are not that uncommon. "Alevoso" is used exactly as to 
depict an abusive situation, while "escanciar" is less often heard, but as it has 
been narrowed enough to mean only "whisky pouring into a glass", I find it logical 
to come from Gothic! Such knowledge of yours tells me that your Spanish 
studies have gone quite beyond the basics. Regarding guante, well, both examples 
match. I'd say anyway is a French loanword, just like "reloj" (horloge, 
"clock/watch"). 

Regarding Gutiska Rada (right?), I'd love to receive some basic guidelines for 
Gothic expressions, such as common nouns, salutations, etc. And as to finish: 
What's Gothic for Paul? Could you also translate the adjective "grape-picker" 
(which happens to be my family name in Genoese)? Thanks a lot in advance.

Best wishes,

Pablo
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Fredrik" <gadrauhts at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> 
> I'm sorry but I didn't get exactly what you meant but since I've 
> studied spanish have I noticed the gothic influence in it.
> Sure is that gothic hadn't any great influence, arabic had way more.
> But there are a few words in spanish from gothic origin.
> And as you mention also a few names.
> Among those I would add Alafuns/Alfonso.
> 
> A word such as alevoso is most probably from gothic, cf. the verb 
> lewjan = betray. And the verb escanciar (which I guess only exist in 
> some dialects of spanish) comes from gothic skagkjan.
> But about the word guante (cognate to swedish vante) I'm not sure.
> Is it from gothic or is it a earlier loan from another germanic 
> language. The same word occur in italian as guanto and french as gant.
> The portuguese word luva could probably come from gothic glofa 
> (cognate to english glove), with the same meaning. 
> 
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Pablo" <pittaluga@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > My name's Pablo, and I'm from Argentina. I'm a PR & Training man, 
> having 
> > Germanic languages as a hobby and interest.
> > 
> > I've seen Gothic pages where was depicted as the missing link for 
> Germanic 
> > reconstruction, and observing its vocabulary noted that goes 
> halfway Germanic 
> > halfway Latin –due to simultaneous existence I guess-, i.e. "ahwa" 
> (water), 
> > "idjja" (past participle of go, quite similar to Spanish "ido"). My 
> mother tongue is 
> > Spanish, a language that was quite influenced by Visigoth from AD 
> 300 to AD 
> > 700, roughly the Visigoth rule in Spain. But even is Spanish 
> language studies 
> > Visigoth is kind of ignored. You can see the traces in Fernando 
> (Ferdinand), 
> > Rodrigo (Roderick), et cetera.
> > 
> > I'd love to share thoughts and points of view on Gothic with you 
> all.
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Pablo
> >
>


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