IPA damage of the 20th century

Dan Patnode dan at DSAD.UWM.EDU
Wed Oct 30 17:58:20 UTC 2002


OK, not trying to start anything Eric, and I do appreciate your
explanations...but I am curious about your reference to "the IPA damage of
the 20th century".

Dan

"While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
 As of someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
 ''T is some visitor,' I muttered "tapping at my chamber door---
 Only this and nothing more."

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-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
[mailto:brunner at NIC-NAA.NET]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:39 AM
To: ILAT at listserv.arizona.edu
Subject: Re: UofA and CRIT


Dan,

I was puzzled by that too.

A common problem is that few groups have a standard orthography.

In Abenaki we have "w" or "ou" or "8" (that's a "u" on top of an "o", from
the time when French didn't actually have a "w").

In Siksika we have with diacriticals and without. In archaic Siksika we have
syllabics and romanesque orthographies.

Some community programs have adopted to the qwerty repitoire, like the Old
Sun School and modern Siksika, which is diacritically simplified.

Some are still "digging their way out" from the speed-writing gibberish of
the late-19th century and the IPA damage of the 20th century, and haven't
yet reached the point of looking at typography as a cost of doing business.

Here'e some more charsets:

Siksika/Cree/Tsitsistas Charsets

        siksika.charset ::
                {a,h,i,k,m,n,o,p,s,t,w,y:`,acute-vowel}
        cree.charset ::
                {a,c,e,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,p,s,w,y:^}
        tsitsistas.charset ::
                {a,e,h,k,',m,n,o,p,s,s,t,v,x:',^}

The usual caveat, these come from current community teaching programs, not
from external sources.

Kitakitamatsinopowaw && Adio (wicked shorter in Abenaki, neh?)
Eric



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