Mongolians first to discover America claims professor

[Mia Kalish]

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From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
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In discussion with Greg Anderson of Living Tongues,he found
similarities in siberian and some athabaskan languages
but he presented the possibility that
populations of migrating americans could just as well have settled 
parts of Siberia and languages could have been spread this way as well.
The Bering Strait might not have been The One Way Road 
we see on high school school maps

I guess Athabaskans could claim to have discovered Russia?

Richard Zane Smith
Wyandotte, Oklahoma



On 1/11/08 4:01 PM, "Ryan Denzer-King" <johndillinger43 at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

>From what I know about the Bering Strait theory, the crossings occurred at
far too great a time depth for any significant (at least superficial)
linguistic evidence to be present.  It's my understanding that any
divergences great than 10,000 years are essentially impossible to prove,
since the divergence will be great enough that similarities in the languages
due to common genetic origin will not be statistically significantly greater
than those due to chance.
 
Ryan Denzer-King



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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:29:06 -0700
From: bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Mongolians first to discover America claims professor
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To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU

Dear ILAT:
I find this topic interesting too since I read somewhere that there had been
DNA comparisons done on American Indian and Mongolians or Asians?  Does
anyone know if there was something like that in the past several years?  I
believe it also stated that there were very little similarities. Regarding
the Bering Strait theory--that's all it is according to the late Prof. Vine
Deloria, it is not proven scientific fact that it occurred.  Also, where is
the linguistic evidence that any Indigenous languages of the Americas are,
in any way, similar to Asian or Mongolian languages?  It would seem that the
issue of parallels in language has not been proven although there have been
comparisons done.  
 
Bernadette A. Santamaria

 
On 1/11/08, Dr. Dorene Wiese <dpwiese at aol.com> wrote: 

Dear ILAT LISTSERV.

The article on the Mongolians is very interesting, considering, when we
visited there with the first American Indian group  in l980, they had
never heard of the Bering Strait theory. It is true, however, that when we
took our group picture, some of us on Mongolian horses, in Ulan Batar,you
could not tell who the Indians were and who the Mongolians were.  George
Bordeaux has great film coverage of that historic event. It was a tremendous
trip. I call that time, China before McDonalds. 
Dorene

 

 
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Mongolians first to discover America claims professor



12:01 | 11/ 01/ 2008

http://en.rian.ru/world/20080111/96196977.html



BEIJING, January 11 (RIA Novosti) - A Mongolian professor of history has
said

America was discovered by the Mongolians and not Christopher Columbus, as is

popularly believed, the Xinhua news agency reported late on Thursday.



Professor Sumiya Jambaldorj from the Genghis Khan University in the
Mongolian

capital, UIan Bator, performed a study proving the similarity between
American

place names and words in the Mongolian language.



"About 8,000 to 25,000 years ago, Mongols with stone tools crossed the
Aleutian

Islands and arrived in America," Jambaldorj was reported as saying.



The academic said that over 20 place names in the Alaskan Aleutian Islands
could

be Mongolian.



"Many names of places and rivers in the U.S. state of Alaska are believed to
be

Mongolian," he said.



The news agency said there were similar words in a Native American language
and

Mongolian, e.g. "hagaan," which means "ancestor" in Mongolian.



Jambaldorj said there was much in common between the ancestors of the
Mongolians

and the Native Americans, adding that some types of stone tools found in the

Aleutian Islands had also been discovered in the Gobi desert area of
Mongolia.

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