Hui looks at saving language (fwd link)

Richard Zane Smith rzs at WILDBLUE.NET
Wed Oct 27 13:19:18 UTC 2010


Compulsory thought/education rings lots of warning bells.
Of course ,its been an effective tool of oppressors, colonizers.
We're still reeling from the results of forced English/Spanish/French
 immersion - *Chiefly with the educational bent towards Paradigm
Replacement.*
"Replacement" would likely NOT be a goal of any indigenous language
education.

However, place names, flora and fana ,eg.of Aotearoa,(or: NZ)
where the language is more widespread and standardized,
should be taught everywhere and pronounced correctly!
TV announcers continually brutalize Maori place names and peoples names,
even though they are not THAT difficult to pronounce.
This is just an annoying daily display of insistant ignorance.

note;
This would be much more difficult in the States where we have
hundreds of languages and thousands of various place names!
Richard Zane Smith
Wyandotte Oklahoma


On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Keola Donaghy <donaghy at hawaii.edu> wrote:

> Kia ora, Peter. Yes, this is also an issue for us. We have lost some
> immersion teachers to public and private schools as well. While compulsory
> Hawaiian at some levels may sound appealing, I also believe it would have a
> disastrous results.
>
> Look forward to seeing you in Pepeluali also, Larry and I were talking
> about you just yesterday.
>
> Keola
>
> On 2010 ʻOk. 26, at 16:57, Peter J Keegan wrote:
>
>  Aloha Keola,
>
> Personally, I also find calls for compulsory language instruction somewhat
> difficult to understand. New Zealand in recent decades did have compulsory
> language in many high schools, no guesses as to what happened. In the case
> of Maori, making Maori compulsory would have a negative effect on the
> Maori-medium education sector, which would lose Maori teachers to English
> medium schools that would offer better working conditions.
>
> Given the state of the New Zealand economy, and a government cutting back
> on education spending, the compulsory teaching of Maori is unlikely to make
> the discussion table.
>
> A hui hou (Pepeluali)
>
> Peter J Keegan
>
> (Auckland, NZ/Tamaki Makaurau, Aotearoa)
>
> On 27/10/2010 9:39 a.m., Keola Donaghy wrote:
>
> Interesting. Regarding his statement "People argued that making it
> compulsory would turn children off, but that theory had never been tested" -
> Prof. Reedy obviously hasn't spoken to anyone regarding compulsory Irish.
>
>  Keola
>
>   On 2010 ʻOk. 26, at 10:27, Phillip E Cash Cash wrote:
>
>  Hui looks at saving language
>
> Laurel Stowell | 27th October 2010
>
> Maori language ought to be compulsory in New Zealand schools, says
> Professor Tamati Reedy. That's his personal opinion. And those
> attending a series of hui on the future of the language are saying
> people ought to value it at least as highly as the country's native
> birds and plants.
>
> Access full article below:
>
> http://www.wanganuichronicle.co.nz/local/news/hui-looks-at-saving-language/3927758/
>
>
>
>
>  ========================================================================
> Keola Donaghy
> Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies
> Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu
> University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/<http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Edonaghy/>
>
>  "Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
> A country without its language is a country without its soul.
> ========================================================================
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> regards,
>
> Peter J Keegan
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================================================
> Keola Donaghy
> Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies
> Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu
> University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/
>
> "Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
> A country without its language is a country without its soul.
> ========================================================================
>
>
>
>


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