Language more important than land - academic (fwd link)

BSantaMaria bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM
Thu Sep 13 16:31:06 UTC 2012


To all responders:

Ahiye'e (Thank you!), for info on article/book & relevant
discussion/ideas--this topic is an example of how this listserve should
involve everything relevant to Indigenous people and their languages.....I
hope we continue such discussions....


Bernadette

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:

> Thanks Rolland and thanks MJ!
> look forward to reading it.
> From our Wyandot removal, actually ALL the small nations removed to this
> NE corner of OKL.
> we are very likely some of the most assimilated people groups. Also among
> the most belittled,
> and shamed, from all sides for not surviving as "real Indians"  ( another
> big topic entirely)
> There is VERY likely a corolation between land loss (legalized ethnic
> cleansing),
> and depression, alcoholism, poverty, the loss of identity,as well as the
> obvious, language and ceremony.
>
> Indigenous people groups, leaving homelands behind are in some way
> "reconstructed" people groups.
> In our past captives were expected to leave behind the identity they were
> born into,
> to merge into their adopted clan and phratry. In many regards we are
> captives taken to
> a foreign land -  trout raised in a pet store...
>
> unę́h,
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Rolland Nadjiwon <mikinakn at shaw.ca>wrote:
>
>> **
>> P.P.S. to my post:
>>
>> Hardman, M. J. (1994) “’And if we lose our names, then what about our
>> land?’, or, what price development?” in L. H. Turner and H. M. Sterk (eds)
>> *Differences that Make a Difference: Examining the Assumptions in Gender
>> Research* (pp. 152-161). Westport & London: Bergin & Garvey.
>>
>> http://plaza.ufl.edu/hardman/DTPacket/linguisticpostulate.pdf    in the
>> .pdf format it is pages 34-39(equals 151-161)
>>
>>
>> wahjeh
>> rolland nadjiwon
>> ________________
>> Harper is a joke and 'pansy' to anyone and any country that will act as
>> his 'sin eater'...
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:
>> ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Huang,Chun
>> *Sent:* September-12-12 9:35 PM
>> *To:* ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
>> *Subject:* Re: [ILAT] Language more important than land - academic (fwd
>> link)
>>
>>  Thank you, Bernadette Adley-SantaMaria
>>
>> I recommend Hardman's article below where, through studying Jaqaru, she
>> explains how land is indeed, as you point out, intertwined with language
>> (both  being parts of the whole): if you lose one, you lose the other.
>> Hardman also demonstrates how English, especially the English cultural
>> thinking as manifested its three major linguistic postulates, can often do
>> damage to the indigenous/local. One of the English postulates Hardman
>> identifies is "ranking through comparative/absolute," which the original
>> article in question here exemplifies very well for us: "*Language (is)
>> more important than land!*" Really, what's the point of ranking the
>> importance of language against the importance of land anyway??? Many
>> English users, unfortunately, seem unable to escape such ranking mentality.
>>
>> Hardman, M. J. (1994) “’And if we lose our names, then what about our
>> land?’, or, what price development?” in L. H. Turner and H. M. Sterk (eds)
>> *Differences that Make a Difference: Examining the Assumptions in Gender
>> Research* (pp. 152-161). Westport & London: Bergin & Garvey.
>>
>> Let me or Dr. Hardman know if you can't find a copy. I believe she
>> wouldn't mind sharing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chun (Jimmy) Huang
>>
>> Siraya of Taiwan
>>
>> Assistant Professor, University of Guam
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
>  "…revitalizing our language is really just an act of returning to what
> we are supposed to be. It is like a fish returning to the water, breathing
> and living once again. "Xh'unei Lance E. Twitchell (Tlingit)
> *
>
>  richardzanesmith.wordpress.com
>
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