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Rick Mc Callister rmccalli at sunmuw1.MUW.Edu
Wed Jun 9 21:09:01 UTC 1999


	gayo is used in the Southern Cone to mean "dude, guy, man, etc"
	I've seen it written as <gayo> in dictionaries of [Spanish] calo/ &
germani/a, so it was used in Spain in the 1500s
	I've seen the term <gaio> in general books on Gypsies, including on
British Gypsies
	payo, given that it means "chump, loser, clown, etc."  sounds like
it might be a play on words. I'm guessing that it comes from payaso <
Italian pagliaccio

>> Along this line, I've wondered if <guy> --generally said to be
>> derived from the dummy of Guy Fawkes-- is from Romany, given that Spanish
>> gayo (said to be from Romany gaio "non-Gypsy") has the same meaning.
>> Ditto English geeta (which I've only heard in gangster movies from
>> the 1940s) and Spanish guita, both meaning "money"

>[Ed Selleslagh]

>In Spain I always heard non-Gypsies being called 'payos', not 'gayos'. Could
>these be two variants derived from a common 'guayos' ?(but in what
>language?)  BTW, note that Romaní is a satem language  - actually various
>languages - related to Indo-Iranian.



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