*sr- roots in PIE (2)

Rick Mc Callister rmccalli at sunmuw1.MUW.Edu
Thu Nov 2 15:31:56 UTC 2000


I finally tracked down my notes and
Yes, it is xarrupar "sorber (to sip)" [Corominas 1976: 128]

In the same section, Corominas also ascribes to "Basque-Aquitanian" or
"Basque-Iberian" Catalan, Occitan estalviar "ahorrar, salvar [la vida, la
dignidad] (to save up, to save [a life, dignity])"

/st-/ doesn't look at all Basque to me

On page 126
He ascribes Spanish
barruntar "to have a premonition"
socarrar "to half-dress or half-roast meat" [Vela/zquez]; "to engage in
knavery"
mellar "to notch, hack"
zurrar "to dress leather; chastize; whip" and a dozen or so other meanings
to "Basque-Iberian"

I would have thought that by that time Iberian would have been shown to be
not to be demonstrably related to Basque
In any case
socarrar looks as if it includes Latin sub-
was Corominas thinking in ekarri, ekharri?
and mellar has an initial /m-/

Larry, do any of these look as if they're from Basque? Or are they cognates
of Basque words that may have come from Latin or whatnot?

I'm curious about the occasional initial /s-/ > /s^, c^, x/ in various
Ibero-Romance words
e.g.
Spanish jabo/n < sapo:n-
Spanish chorizo, Port. chouric,o /s^owrisu/ < sauriculum
The easy way out would be to lay all of this at the feet of Basque
but what else can be said about this?

>That is: "XARRUPAR, word in common with Basque <zurrupatu>, mod. occ.
><sourr(o)upa`> (or <chourroupa`>, or <fourroupa`>), and nav.-arag.
><churrup(e)ar>, of uncertain origin; it's certain that all, more or
>less, are in part due to onomatopoeia and other expressive factors,
>but it's probable that for a large part they originate utimately from
>a deformation suffered by Lat. SORBE:RE in the mouths of the
>aboriginal population of the Pyrinees when they turned bilingual
>(latin-protohispanic), maybe spread by half-Basque shepherds from the
>mountains."

>=======================
>Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
>mcv at wxs.nl

Rick Mc Callister
W-1634
Mississippi University for Women
Columbus MS 39701



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