a question about multilingual babies

Mon May 9 05:17:41 UTC 2011

Dear Sharon,

Thank you for your comments. Very interesting...
Question:
*So based on the paper you are talking about you suggest that parents expose
their kids with many languages when they are zero language?*

.

Best,
Parisa

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Sharon Armon-Lotem <
sharon.armonlotem at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Dear Parisa,
>
> Google is full with hearsay. Even professors might be the source. I am not
> aware of real science (experimentally based with statistics) that supports
> your claims. But there are many studies nowadays that argue the other way
> round.
> A child who grows in a multilingual environment is not pushed too hard to
> learn languages. He just grows into it. What is important is balanced rich
> exposure to each language and listening for the communicative needs of the
> child.
>
> Multilingualism is not a risky situation, it is the way the world is for
> many children and they grow up O.K.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Sharon
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:49 AM, parisa Daftarifard <pdaftaryfard at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Dear Sharon,
>>
>> I just refer to the statement by the professor (I searched it through web
>> very quickly).
>> Look at this part
>>
>>
>> However, the article cites some negative reactions that are even more
>> hair-raising:
>>
>> Dr. Shin Min-sup, a professor at Seoul National University who specializes
>> in issues of adolescent psychiatry, is worried about the trend for surgery
>> and also *for pushing young children too hard to learn languages.*
>>
>> "There's the potential for life-damaging after-effects," Shin said.
>> "Learning a foreign language too early, in some cases, may not only cause a
>> speech impediment but, in the worst case, make an child autistic."
>>
>> "What's wrong with speaking English with an accent anyway? Many parents
>> tend to discount the importance of a well-rounded education," Shin said.
>>
>>
>> Finding ariticles about the risky act of exposing zero child to many
>> languages is not very difficult. Please search through google web.
>>
>> *Would you accept the responsiblity* to expose one kid in *such a
>> possible riskiy situation* based on limited published paper on the
>> benefits of bilingualism in *zero language child*?
>>
>> Please say this frankly because they are parents to kids and ask
>> specialists a question to act based on responses.
>>
>> Best,
>> Parisa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Sharon Armon-Lotem <
>> sharon.armonlotem at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Dear Parisa,
>>>
>>> Did you actually read what the link was about? It was about  frenotomy (cutting
>>> 1 to 1.5 cm from the strap of tissue linking the tongue to the floor of the
>>> mouth), and in a Reuters article, which I would not call scientific
>>> evidence, but rather someone quoting a hearsay. .
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Sharon
>>>
>>>   On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:18 AM, parisa Daftarifard <
>>> pdaftaryfard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Dear Mohinish,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your question. Although Bilingualism might not be a risk
>>>> factor (nobody said this for sure through research though) but would
>>>> compound the situaiton if the child has the hiden autistic factors. Although
>>>> there are many as you can read below suggest that early bilingualism
>>>> might increase autistic symptoms.
>>>>
>>>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000085.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> who would like to create a risky situation for his or her kids.
>>>> 1.  There is no well known reason discovered for autism.
>>>> 2.  there are many disagreements about the way children learn language
>>>>
>>>> what your result would  be? To rush the poor baby in a risky situation
>>>> that some articles with limited number of subjects showed or in a natural
>>>> situation where billions of children are grown up.
>>>>
>>>> Bilingualism can be achieved even when the baby starts speaking one
>>>> language. Why should we expose our kids to two or three or even worse four
>>>> languages to have maybe a healthy cognitively high (we don't know how much
>>>> higher statistically?) boy in future and *maybe not!*
>>>> *As a mother and researcher I suggest you give your kid time to learn
>>>> his first language! then help him learn as many languages as he would like
>>>> when he starts speaking.*
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Parisa
>>>>
>>>>    On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Mohinish <mohinish.s at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I too share other posters' understanding that bilingualism is not a
>>>>> risk factor. In fact Kovács & Mehler (PNAS, 2009:
>>>>> http://www.pnas.org/content/106/16/6556.short) show that there can be
>>>>> cognitive GAINS in 7-mo-old bilinguals, compared to monolinguals.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there is a causal asymmetry - certain developmental
>>>>> trajectories that lead to abnormal conditions like autism might include
>>>>> language delays, but language delays by themselves need not be the CAUSE of
>>>>> these conditions; and I would be very interested to see evidence that
>>>>> language delay CAUSES problems like autism. We know that there can be
>>>>> substantial variation in, e.g, production, such that some kids start
>>>>> speaking earlier than others.  I don't think that the later-speaking kids'
>>>>> 'delays' count as pathological at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Parisa, could you include some key references that suggest that
>>>>> learning a single language early is better than learning multiple languages?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Mohinish
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   On May 8, 2011, at 11:11 PM, parisa Daftarifard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Language delay is much more dangerous than loosing time for true
>>>>> bilingualism. There are many risk factors like being autistic, developmental
>>>>> delay and global delay in terms of cognition. I think recent psychology
>>>>> suggests for learning one language first and then being exposed to other
>>>>> languages. I can send you some books off list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Parisa
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:55 AM, beachjade <beachjade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Tamar and Yves,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a recent paper by Janet Werker that may be relevant to your
>>>>>> second question about how early should you expose your child to his many
>>>>>> languages.  In contrast to an earlier response to your post, my reading of
>>>>>> the literature suggests that bilingualism/multilingualism in an of itself is
>>>>>> not a risk factor in development.  This is echoed by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.lsadc.org/info/pdf_files/Bilingual.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  <http://www.lsadc.org/info/pdf_files/Bilingual.pdf>
>>>>>> http://www.psychologicalscience.org/journals/pspi/pspi_10_3.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  <http://www.psychologicalscience.org/journals/pspi/pspi_10_3.pdf>
>>>>>> http://www.psychologicalscience.org/media/releases/2010/werker.cfm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Tamar & Yves <tamarmr at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> Our 10 months old son is exposed to 3 languages at home ( each one of
>>>>>>> us is speaking to him his mother- tongue, and we speak English
>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>> us) and to a 4th one outside.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Soon he will be starting Nursery, and we were wondering what language
>>>>>>> it should be in. Is it better to expose him simultaneously to all 4
>>>>>>> languages or should we do it gradually over the first few years of
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> life (It's possible to sign him up to a nursery in my husnband's
>>>>>>> mother tongue (2)/ english (3)/ bi lingual (enviroment+English)(4))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We don't want language acquisition to be too much of a burden on him,
>>>>>>> and not sure how many languages he can learn at once.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are aware of the large number of factors affecting the answer, but
>>>>>>> does anyone know or refer us to research done on the specific issues
>>>>>>> of (i) number of languages babies can learn and its implication on
>>>>>>> their emotional state; and (ii) Is it better to expose a baby to
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> languages simultaneously or gradually over the first few years of his
>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Tamar & Yves
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Phd Student of TEFL
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Islamic Azad University of Science and Research

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