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Isa Barriere barriere.isa at gmail.com
Tue Aug 20 14:08:37 UTC 2013


Thank you.  I did not think I could get the information this way since
Linguistics is not a STEM field.

Best,
Isabelle


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, rose maier <rosie.maier at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Isabelle,
> The NSF tracks information about the participation of women, minorities,
> and people with disabilities in STEM fields, and makes the most current
> data publicly available here:
> http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/wmpd/2013/tables.cfm
> These tables include information on women's enrollment in undergraduate
> and graduate programs, as well as degrees awarded at various levels (BS/BA
> through PhD) and attainment of career milestones. If you select the tables
> organized by field and then by gender, you should be able to get the
> information you're looking for about Linguistics.
> Cheers,
> Rose Maier
>
> Rose Maier
> Doctoral Student
> Department of Psychology
> University of Oregon
> Office: Straub 493
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Isa Barriere <barriere.isa at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Virginia, Ana and Ginny,
>> 1. Does anyone know here I can find demographic information (including
>> gender. ethnic etc break down) for a) undergraduate and graduate students
>> in Linguistics programs an b) faculty Linguistics in the US?
>>
>> 2.  A comment related to Tom's
>> Back in late 90's when I joined a reading group on language acquisition
>> in London, it was interesting to note the male female divide: all the
>> males' research focused on computational models of lg acquisition while all
>> the females were conducting studies that involved data collection on real
>> children but I feel (maybe wrongly) that this trend may be changing and of
>> course some people do both ...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Isabelle
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Tom Roeper <roeper at linguist.umass.edu>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Ana and Ginny--
>>>
>>> There is another important dimension to all of this.  It is a concern of
>>> mine that the relevance
>>> of language acquistion to linguistic theory be fully appeciated and
>>> grasped.  How often does
>>> one read in a theoretical paper that a phenomenon is found in language
>>> family X, Y, Z and
>>> in child grammar?  Extremely rarely, but in many respects spontaneous
>>> acquisition behavior
>>> for instance copying (can I can come) should be seen as much more
>>> persuasive than very
>>> indirect theoretical arguments for say, copying.  Yet in general, simple
>>> confirmation of
>>> ideas through acquisition references is sorely lacking.
>>>     This is also a reflection of the fact that language acquisition has
>>> a large number of women
>>> in it I suspect, and gender bias is playing a role.   This is not
>>> entirely without overt evidence---
>>> but I remember a male colleague saying---many many years ago--"language
>>> acquisition is
>>> for women".  By the way, I also heard, within linguistic theory itself
>>> remarks like "morphology
>>> is for women", but not recently.
>>>
>>> Tom Roeper
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Virginia Valian <vvvstudents at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Anna,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to start by reiterating that I think this year's speakers will
>>>> be excellent!  I look forward to hearing them on 31 October.
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate seeing the whole list of SLD symposium speakers.  It's
>>>> good to see that the history has a better proportion of women overall than
>>>> this year alone would suggest.  Note, though, that language acquisition is
>>>> a primarily female field.  If all other things are equal - and they may not
>>>> be - we would expect to see primarily female speakers over the long haul.
>>>>  That is, in the case of language acquisition, we don't expect 50-50 but
>>>> many more women, just as, in fields that are male-dominated, we don't
>>>> expect 50-50, but many more men.
>>>>
>>>> Who receives public attention affects not only the particular women
>>>> whose voices aren't heard, but all students and researchers in the field.
>>>> People's aspirations, interests, and expectations are affected by who they
>>>> see in prestigious positions.
>>>>
>>>> As the links I provided earlier spell out in more detail - and see my
>>>> gender tutorial 4, www.hunter.cuny.edu/gendertutorial/slides/gt04.htm- the social-cognitive analysis that I provide shows why everyone - male
>>>> and female alike, and that includes me - is likely to find men's names to
>>>> be more cognitively available than women's.  We all have gender schemas and
>>>> we all use cognitive heuristics.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> VVV
>>>>
>>>> Virginia Valian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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