[Lexicog] RE: Query re keyboard re-mapping

Jimm GoodTracks goodtracks at GBRONLINE.COM
Thu Sep 23 04:34:09 UTC 2004


John:
Is this saying that the Unicode fonts are ready to replace the Siouian fonts
that you composed?
jimm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Koontz John E" <john.koontz at colorado.edu>
To: <lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Lexicog] RE: Query re keyboard re-mapping


> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Peter Kirk wrote:
> > I think it would work if you copy usp10.dll from C:\Program Files\Common
> > Files\Microsoft Shared\OFFICE11 to the same folder as notepad.exe,
> > toolbox.exe or whatever - so that Notepad, Toolbox (not Shoebox as this
> > is a Unicode only feature) etc uses this usp10.dll rather than the older
> > version in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32. ...
>
> OK.  I appreciate the insight into how far things have gotten!  I knew
> Unicode support at some level was getting to be pretty widespread, but I
> was cynical about rendering of base + diacritic sequences.
>
> It sounds like the next step is to get other vendors to use the Unicode
> display interface that is (almost, not quite) in the system API.  So
> things are really surprisingly close, for Windows if not, say, Linux.
> Maybe there, too?  However, so far, even if this works with Microsoft
> applications in Windows, it still hasn't gotten to the point where I think
> that the Unicode folks can meaningfully say that support for base +
> diacritic rendering is a part of the environment that they (and we) can
> take for granted.
>
> Still, their attitude probably has a lot to do with how close things are!
> Ten years ago when they started claiming to take this for granted you had
> to buy an expensive special purpose text editor to reach that exhaulted
> state, and the results looked like they had been scratched on concrete
> with a nail.  And, of course, one does need a bit more than one expensive,
> cranky text editor or one vendor's non-linguistic applications working to
> claim that this kind of rendering comes with modern display engines.
>
> I'm glad to hear about the progress!  As a practicioner with languages
> whose combinations of accent marks and nasal hooks are never going to make
> it into the precomposed sections of Unicode I am looking forward to this
> more flexible rendering capability eagerly.
>
> Of course, now I remember that the other shoe is that text editors have to
> be able to handle this kind of text, too.  It gets a bit trickier when
> characters can consist of multiple character codes, and you might want to
> ignore the diacritic codes in some contexts, but not always.
>




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