[lg policy] Klingon and other "crazy ideas" in book about invented tongues

[Christina Paulston]

Of course linguists doing straight linguistics are nerdy.  Why would  
you think any differently?  Julia is quite right. C



On Jun 22, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Harold Schiffman wrote:

> Julia:
>
> One of the reasons this issue is being dealt with here is that the
> creation of new
> languages is a language policy issue PAR EXCELLENCE.  It's not just  
> a nerdy
> sci-fi kind of discussion.  At least that's what motivated me to post
> the original
> message--it's language policy running wild!
>
> HS
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Julia deBres  
> <juliadebres at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> This whole thread is hilarious, I'm loving it.
>>
>> It seems like a Monty Python sketch that a secret group of  
>> international
>> linguists are deeply engaged in analysing the distinctive features of
>> languages that only exist in Outer Space.
>>
>> Extremely nerdy....in the best possible way.
>>
>> Awesome, people.
>> Julia
>> ________________________________
>> From: Harold Schiffman <haroldfs at gmail.com>
>> To: Language Policy List <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu>
>> Sent: Tue, 22 June, 2010 4:03:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [lg policy] Klingon and other "crazy ideas" in book  
>> about
>> invented tongues
>>
>> This was my point--not that Klingon had sounds that no earthling  
>> language
>> had,
>> but more "exotic" (at least to an American English speaker) ones,  
>> such as
>> velar
>> fricatives, post-velar stops, and so on.  All to convey the notion, I
>> think, that the
>> Klingons were kinda dangerous.
>>
>> HS
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Jeremy Graves  
>> <jayrkirk42 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> As I understand it, the author of the original article seems to have
>>> misspoken (or is it miswritten?). Klingon doesn't necessarily have
>>> features
>>> that Earth languages don't, but it combines features from a  
>>> variety of
>>> languages in ways that earth languages don't, and it exhibits the  
>>> most
>>> uncommon (on Earth) syntactic pattern: OSV, all in an effort to  
>>> appear
>>> more
>>> alien. I would be more specific, but I'm afraid my Klingon  
>>> dictionary is
>>> in
>>> a box 7000 miles away from me right now...
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "Kephart, Ronald" <rkephart at unf.edu>
>>> To: Language Policy List <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu>
>>> Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 5:32:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [lg policy] Klingon and other "crazy ideas" in book  
>>> about
>>> invented tongues
>>>
>>> On 6/21/10 3:30 AM, "Jeremy Graves" <jayrkirk42 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Klingon was invented by linguist Marc Okrand for the Star Trek  
>>> films.
>>> He created, on purpose, a harsh, guttural, alien language that does
>>> things in ways earthling languages don't. Out of this world.
>>>
>>> Does anyone exactly what feature(s) Klingon has that no Earth  
>>> language
>>> has?
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
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>> Harold F. Schiffman
>>
>> Professor Emeritus of
>> Dravidian Linguistics and Culture
>> Dept. of South Asia Studies
>> University of Pennsylvania
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>>
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> Harold F. Schiffman
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> Dravidian Linguistics and Culture
> Dept. of South Asia Studies
> University of Pennsylvania
> Philadelphia, PA 19104-6305
>
> Phone:  (215) 898-7475
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