[lg policy] Klingon and other "crazy ideas" in book about invented tongues

Tue Jun 22 16:26:33 UTC 2010

indeed, I fully approve :)

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/06/2010, at 5:57 PM, Harold Schiffman <haroldfs at gmail.com> wrote:

Julia:

One of the reasons this issue is being dealt with here is that the
creation of new
languages is a language policy issue PAR EXCELLENCE.  It's not just a nerdy
sci-fi kind of discussion.  At least that's what motivated me to post
the original
message--it's language policy running wild!

HS

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Julia deBres <juliadebres at yahoo.com> wrote:
This whole thread is hilarious, I'm loving it.

It seems like a Monty Python sketch that a secret group of international
linguists are deeply engaged in analysing the distinctive features of
languages that only exist in Outer Space.

Extremely nerdy....in the best possible way.

Awesome, people.
Julia
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From: Harold Schiffman <haroldfs at gmail.com>
To: Language Policy List <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu>
Sent: Tue, 22 June, 2010 4:03:36 PM
Subject: Re: [lg policy] Klingon and other "crazy ideas" in book about
invented tongues

This was my point--not that Klingon had sounds that no earthling language
had,
but more "exotic" (at least to an American English speaker) ones, such as
velar
fricatives, post-velar stops, and so on.  All to convey the notion, I
think, that the
Klingons were kinda dangerous.

HS

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Jeremy Graves <jayrkirk42 at yahoo.com> wrote:
As I understand it, the author of the original article seems to have
misspoken (or is it miswritten?). Klingon doesn't necessarily have
features
that Earth languages don't, but it combines features from a variety of
languages in ways that earth languages don't, and it exhibits the most
uncommon (on Earth) syntactic pattern: OSV, all in an effort to appear
more
alien. I would be more specific, but I'm afraid my Klingon dictionary is
in
a box 7000 miles away from me right now...
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From: "Kephart, Ronald" <rkephart at unf.edu>
To: Language Policy List <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu>
Sent: Mon, June 21, 2010 5:32:39 PM
Subject: Re: [lg policy] Klingon and other "crazy ideas" in book about
invented tongues

On 6/21/10 3:30 AM, "Jeremy Graves" <jayrkirk42 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Klingon was invented by linguist Marc Okrand for the Star Trek films.
He created, on purpose, a harsh, guttural, alien language that does
things in ways earthling languages don't. Out of this world.

Does anyone exactly what feature(s) Klingon has that no Earth language
has?

Ron

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Fax:  (215) 573-2138

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