German MIT

Bakker, D. D.Bakker at UVA.NL
Thu Dec 17 16:48:25 UTC 2009


Dutch also uses 'in' next to 'with', possibly related to the semantics of the main verb:

met haar hebben we een groot leider verloren
with her have      we  a     great  leader lost

But:

in haar hebben/bezitten we  een groot leider
in her   have/possess      we  a     great leader


Dik


Dik Bakker 
Dept. of General Linguistics 
Universities of Amsterdam & Lancaster
tel (+44) 1524 64975 & (+31) 20 5253864
http://home.medewerker.uva.nl/d.bakker/

Societas Linguistica Europaea 
Secretary/Treasurer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion List for ALT on behalf of E. Bashir
Sent: Thu 12/17/2009 16:56
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Subject: Re: German MIT
 
The same is true for English, for example:  
In him, we lost a great leader.

Elena Bashir
University of Chicago


--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Anna Filippova <anna.serg.filippova at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> From: Anna Filippova <anna.serg.filippova at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: German MIT
> To: LINGTYP at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
> Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 2:49 AM
> Dear Wolfgang,
> in Russian you can say,
> translating the first example of yours:
> 
> 
> Mit ihm haben wir ein-en Freund verloren.
> 
> 
> with  he:DAT have:PRES:1PL we
> INDEF-MASC:ACC friend lose:PPP
> 
> 
> ? ??? ?? ????????
> ?????
> 
> in   he:DAT  we
>  lose:PAST:1PL  friend:MASC:ACC
> 
> 
> As you see, it is the
> preposition "in", not "with", that we
> use in Russian. 
> 
> But then I must say
> exactly the same thing that Denis has just said: this
> construction seems natural only for the first two examples.
> In the other cases, other means of expressing this kind of
> relation should be resorted to. 
> 
> 
> Best
> wishes,
> 
> Anna
> Filippova
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


      

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