[Lingtyp] European Commission on authorship transfer agreements

Joseph T. Farquharson jtfarquharson at gmail.com
Tue Dec 22 17:07:30 UTC 2015


​I don't believe Martin made a recommendation. He merely pointed out
probable scenarios.

Joseph​

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On 22 December 2015 at 17:51, Plank <frans.plank at uni-konstanz.de> wrote:

> Dear Martin,
>
> I've published a few papers in LT over the last 19 years, and I've always
> cited papers by others in LT that had a good claim to be quoted.  (I don't
> cite or not-cite strategically.)  I honestly wonder how many bucks I've
> thus made De Gruyter.  What numbers do you have in mind, Martin?  They must
> be in the six-figure dimension, close to what they earn through Pschyrembel
> Klinisches Woerterbuch, since you seem seriously worried.  So worried that
> you appear to recommend not to publish in LT or cite LT publications in
> future.  Which isn't really very nice of you -- given the effort on all
> sides that has gone into producing a decent and modestly-priced typological
> journal.
>
> Season's Greetings
> Frans
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> Frans Plank
> Sprachwissenschaft
> Universität Konstanz
> 78457 Konstanz
> Germany
>
> Tel  +49 (0)7531 88 2656
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> eMail frans.plank at uni-konstanz.de
> http://ling.uni-konstanz.de/pages/home/plank/
>
>
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>
> On 22 Dec 2015, at 15:49, Martin Haspelmath <haspelmath at shh.mpg.de> wrote:
>
> The statement about ownership of copyright needs to be interpreted in the
> context of "fair open access" publication. Most publication in linguistics
> is not (gold) open access, so publishers need to restrict access in order
> to stay in business. Hence, they need authors to transfer the copyright to
> them.
>
> (The case that Dan Everett mentions, where an author gets royalties, is so
> marginal that we can ignore in on Lingtyp.)
>
> Frankly, I do not understand why retaining the copyright is important with
> open access publication. Not owning the copyright is frustrating when the
> publisher refuses to give access to a work (for example, my 2002 book
> "Understanding morphology" is no longer available, but the publisher
> refuses to return the copyright to me, so it's unavailable, at least
> through normal channels).
>
> But when the publisher has agreed to make a book available in open access,
> with a liberal license, then it doesn't really matter who owns the
> copyright (it seems to me).
>
> What matters most, it seems to me, is who owns the labels. Is the label
> "Linguistic Typology" still owned by the Association for Linguistic
> Typology? Or was it signed over to De Gruyter in exchange for favourable
> conditions? If the former, then ALT can shop around for even better
> conditions. If the latter, then each time we publish (or cite) an LT paper,
> we increase De Gruyter's income, independently of their services.
>
> Martin
>
> On 22.12.15 13:49, Sebastian Nordhoff wrote:
>
> Dear list,
> following up on the discussion about copyright and availability, I offer a
> recent blogpost by the European Commission (
> https://ec.europa.eu/futurium/en/content/fair-open-occess-and-future-scientific-publishing
> )
>
> """
> * Fair open access could also be seen as a question of ownership. Who owns
> publications? Who has the copyright? Probably authors. As a matter of
> principle, copyright should therefore probably not be signed over to other
> actors such as publishers. Therefore, open access publications should be
> licenced in adequate ways. Creative Commons licences could be a good way to
> do this systematically.
> """
>
> Note that you can leave comments on the page, which will actually be read
> by the relevant people in Brussels, so this is a nice opportunity to make
> your voice heard.
>
> Best wishes
> Sebastian
>
>
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