[Lingtyp] Ethnologue goes for paid access

Hedvig Skirgård hedvig.skirgard at gmail.com
Thu Dec 31 01:20:43 UTC 2015


It might interest you all that Steve Moitozo III said on twitter that this
probably will only effect 5% of its users, based on actual Ethnologue user
stats.

http://humans-who-read-grammars.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/ethnologue-institutes-pay-wall-after-7.html

This paywall doesn't (yet) apply to the glossaries, the ISO 639-3 pages and
other material they maintain, but I've heard rumours of the glossaries
moving to only paperback.

Like Martin and Dan said, it is not that surprising. Personally I wish
there was a way for Ethnologue to have stable regular academic funding, but
I don't know enough about the situation to know whether that's possible and
desirable.

/Hedvig

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On 31 December 2015 at 08:47, stephen morey <moreystephen at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> SIL is also the registration authority for ISO 639-3, the set of language
> codes that we are increasingly required to use (for grant applications,
> archiving and in some cases for journal articles).
>
> As far as I know access to the ISO 639-3 site,
> http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/, continues to be open.
>
> Stephen Morey
>
> ------------------------------
> From: DEVERETT at bentley.edu
> To: haspelmath at shh.mpg.de
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 21:41:11 +0000
> CC: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Ethnologue goes for paid access
>
>
> It is not at all clear that SIL is trying to make money. Maintaining these
> pages costs thousands of dollars per month and, as Martin says, SIL has no
> academic funding. Its funding comes from churches by and large and they
> have no particular interest in supporting non-mission related academics. I
> strongly urge the academic community to develop its own resources in this
> area.
>
> DLE
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 30, 2015, at 16:28, Martin Haspelmath <haspelmath at shh.mpg.de>
> wrote:
>
> Yes, that's true, and here's the description:
> http://www.ethnologue.com/ethnoblog/m-paul-lewis/ethnologue-launches-subscription-service
>
> They say you can access seven data pages per month for free.
>
> I don't find this surprising. Ethnologue (and the entire academic branch
> of SIL) has no proper academic funding, so it's normal that they are trying
> to make some money out of their flagship publication.
>
> Incidentally, Glottolog has no proper funding either, but as it is now
> hosted by MPI-SHH in Jena (http://www.shh.mpg.de/48816/research_outline),
> at least its continued existence is assured for the next dozen years or so.
>
> (I think we should try to tell our administrators that it makes little
> sense to try to sell academic publications. Instead, they should by
> properly funded by the academic publishers themselves, in order not to
> drive academics even further into questionable practices
> <http://www.frank-m-richter.de/freescienceblog/2015/12/18/is-our-scholarship-based-on-illegal-foundations/>
> .)
>
> Martin
>
> On 30.12.15 22:16, Peter Arkadiev wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> does any one know whether the access to the Ethnologue is going to be by paid subscription only? When trying to routinely access the information about a random language, I got a screen advertising paid subscription for $60 per year, and there is no way to bypass it and get access to the information which was freely available a week ago. This looks pretty distressing.
>
> Best,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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