[Lingtyp] New name for "Mainland Northeast Asia"

Johanna Nichols johanna at berkeley.edu
Sun Jan 3 21:10:35 UTC 2021


Janhunen 1996 uses the term Manchuria for this area and covers its
ethnohistory and linguistic history so comprehensively that I consider it a
precedent for using that term.

Janhunen, Juha. Manchuria: An ethnic history. Helsinki:
Suomalais-Ugrilainen Seura, 1996.

Johanna



On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:11 PM Dan I. SLOBIN <slobin at berkeley.edu> wrote:

> "Inner" and "outer" convey an implicit hierarchy: some are in and some are
> out; some are central and some are peripheral.
> I suggest a simple, objective solution, avoiding the repetition of names
> of compass directions, and avoiding what may
> be seen as value judgments: Boreal Northeast Asia and Austral Southeast
> Asia -- i.e., North and South, using Latin terms.
> I don't think these terms are opaque: "Boreal" will, for some people,
> evoke "Aurora Borealis," the Northern Lights;
> "Austral" will evoke southerly geography, as in Austronesia and Australia.
>
> Dan Slobin
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> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:28 AM JOO, Ian [Student] <
> ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> (I’m sorry if no one cares, but just for the update)
>> Although no one suggested any alternatives, I gave it a thought and
>> changed the terms “Mainland Northeast Asia” to “Inner Northeast Asia” (as
>> opposed to “Outer Northeast Asia”, i. e. the rest of Northeast Asia).
>> Below is a visualized map of Inner and Outher Northeast Asia.
>>
>>
>>
>> From Hong Kong,
>> Ian
>> On 31 Dec 2020, 6:13 PM +0800, JOO, Ian [Student] <
>> ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk>, wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> In my doctoral research, I refer to the lingistic area consisting of
>> Korea, Mongolia, and Northeast China (but not Japan or Russian Far East) as
>> "Mainland Northeast Asia."
>> But this name is problematic, since Siberia is just as continental (part
>> of "mainland") as well, and I don't intend to include Siberia.
>> Because of this, I have been thinking of a better name for this area.
>> The best one I can think of is *Astragalia, *from the name of the herb
>> astragalus, which is native to Korea, Northeast China, Mongolia, and
>> Southern Siberia.
>> The downside of this fancy name is that, upon hearing it, whoever not
>> familiar with herbalism will have no idea where it points to, without
>> further explanation.
>> Are there any other name candidates you can think of? If so, I would
>> welcome all suggestions.
>>
>> From Hong Kong,
>> Ian
>>
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